Author Topic: If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test! (Read 1662 times)

Tommyt · « **on:** October 11, 2010, 06:40:08 AM »

If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

If a Conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one.
If a Liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.

If a Conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat.
If a Liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.

If a Conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a Liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

If a Conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
A Liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.

If a Conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

If a Conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
A Liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and religion silenced.

If a Conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
A Liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.

If a Conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Liberal will delete it because he's "offended".

Well, I forwarded it.

saddlebum · « **Reply #1 on:** October 11, 2010, 06:50:36 AM »

I got this email some time ago too.

I had a good laugh and I forwarded it.

Thanks for posting!

subdjoe · « **Reply #2 on:** October 11, 2010, 06:54:05 AM »

Quote from: Tommyt on October 11, 2010, 06:40:08 AM

If you ever wondered which side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!

<snip>

If a Conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh.
A Liberal will delete it because he's "offended".

Well, I forwarded it.

That last one is wrong. The liberal (not Liberal - ol' Tommy J. was a Liberal, Queen Nancy is a liberal - see the difference?) will be offended, and call the person who sent this a fascist, homophobe, bigot, racist, etc. Then forward it to other liberals (small l on purpose) as an example of the intolerance and hate of the 'teabaggers.'

guzzijohn · « **Reply #3 on:** October 11, 2010, 09:54:34 AM »

Now for the flip side:

If a black family moves onto the block a liberal will send a welcome wagon.
A conservative will be making plans to move to the burbs.

If a person wants to get a "buzz" in his own home a liberal will say that is their right in their own castle.
A conservative will push or support laws against a little smoke and fill up our jails and then not want to pay for it.

A conservative wants three strikes and your out and then complains about higher taxes to run the jails.
A liberal at least tries to rehab the person first.

A conservative wants all illegals kept out and will support breaking our constitution by placing military at the boarders.
A liberal will realize it is not that simple and will try ways to help assimilate those that are here and find methods other than violence to slow down illegal immigration.

A conservative will say if a person cannot provide health care for themselves or their family let them be sick or die.
A liberal will work to find ways for all to get adequate health care.

A conservative will complain about illegal's children getting an education here, then complain when the uneducated illegal resorts to crime to survive. Once again does not want to raise taxes for the full jails or support the costs of blanket deportation.
A liberal will support educating the illegal's child so that they may become a productive member of society.

A conservative is against abortion but does not want to adopt the crack baby or adequately fund the care of the unwanted children.
A liberal says that the choice of abortion is between the mother and doctor and supports funding programs to minimize abortion.

I could go on but this is a start.
GuzziJohn

nw_hunter · « **Reply #4 on:** October 11, 2010, 10:40:02 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on October 11, 2010, 09:54:34 AM

Now for the flip side:

If a black family moves onto the block a liberal will send a welcome wagon.
A conservative will be making plans to move to the burbs.

I could go on but this is a start.
GuzziJohn

If they have half a brain, and want to see their kids reach adulthood...........They will move to the Burbs.
Google up Crime Bluff Arkansas and see how the low crime town I grew up in, is today.

After reading your first response, I didn't need to read on!

I might add! If the Liberal lives there a few months and survives the drive by shootings, he will try to take that band wagon back, and use it to haul his A-- and belongings out of town.

Hooker · « **Reply #5 on:** October 11, 2010, 10:48:32 AM »

Liberals don't have anything better to do than make others pay for their desires.
And troll on web sites that are Conservative

Pat

guzzijohn · « **Reply #6 on:** October 11, 2010, 11:18:39 AM »

I kind resent being called a troll. This is one of the better outdoor sports sites and I post quite a bit in other sections that have nothing to do with politics. Neither you nor I learn anything new without hearing others opinions whether you agree with them or not. We all have are own view points. I thought that freedom of speech was acceptable on this board as long as it is not offensive. Am I wrong???
GuzziJhon

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #7 on:** October 11, 2010, 11:37:49 AM »

If you are right then why are you upset ? Are they not allowed their opinion ?

guzzijohn · « **Reply #8 on:** October 11, 2010, 11:51:47 AM »

Shootall,
I was referring to Hooker's post.
GuzziJohn

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #9 on:** October 11, 2010, 11:56:23 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on October 11, 2010, 11:51:47 AM

Shootall,
I was referring to Hooker's post.
GuzziJohn

Yes its his opinion , is he not allowed that ? It does differ from your's somewhat. I agree with the lib part and several here do troll.

powderman · « **Reply #10 on:** October 11, 2010, 12:19:15 PM »

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A liberal will support educating the illegal's child so that they may become a productive member of society.

The invaders have no rights here, this is America. We shouldn't have to pay BILLIONS and billions of $s to feed them, clothe them, give them free medical care, that Americans don't get, educate their kids, or help them assimilate into being Americans which they don't want.
guzzi. Just substitute pantywetter for liberal and it all makes sense. I'm amazed that anybody could have such a ridiculous attitude and call themselves an American. Why don't you just adopt them, invite them into your home and help assimilate these invaders, felons, criminals, trespassers yourself??? I'm not going to to. Why not really step up to the plate, give them your property to do with as they see fit, your home, land, etc?

POWDERMAN.

lakota · « **Reply #11 on:** October 11, 2010, 12:24:53 PM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on October 11, 2010, 09:54:34 AM

Now for the flip side:

A conservative wants three strikes and your out and then complains about higher taxes to run the jails.
A liberal at least tries to rehab the person first

Three strikes and you are out implies the attempt at rehabilitation on TWO seperate occasions. Some people simply cannot be rehabilitaed.

Quote from: guzzijohn on October 11, 2010, 09:54:34 AM

A conservative wants all illegals kept out and will support breaking our constitution by placing military at the boarders.
A liberal will realize it is not that simple and will try ways to help assimilate those that are here and find methods other than violence to slow down illegal immigration.

What is unconstitutional about placing millitary on a border to repel foreign invaders?

Quote from: guzzijohn on October 11, 2010, 09:54:34 AM

A conservative will complain about illegal's children getting an education here, then complain when the uneducated illegal resorts to crime to survive. Once again does not want to raise taxes for the full jails or support the costs of blanket deportation.
A liberal will support educating the illegal's child so that they may become a productive member of society.

Illegal means illegal they shouldnt be here to get an education or to commit crimes in order to survive or any thing else.

Quote from: guzzijohn on October 11, 2010, 09:54:34 AM

A conservative will say if a person cannot provide health care for themselves or their family let them be sick or die.
A liberal will work to find ways for all to get adequate health care.

Please point out ONE conservative official that has said this. And this does not include people that post on this forum.

Quote from: guzzijohn on October 11, 2010, 09:54:34 AM

A conservative is against abortion but does not want to adopt the crack baby or adequately fund the care of the unwanted children.
A liberal says that the choice of abortion is between the mother and doctor and supports funding programs to minimize abortion.

The federal government has no business in the debate over abortion it should be a state issue. Let the voters of the states decide if they want abortion to be legal or funding for abortions provided in their state.

Tommyt · « **Reply #12 on:** October 11, 2010, 02:10:01 PM »

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Quote from: guzzijohn on Today at 03:51:47 PM

Pot stirrer
And foot in Mouth
you went and moaned /wined about freedom of Speach
Did you Hear That

Tommyt

scootrd · « **Reply #13 on:** October 11, 2010, 02:54:39 PM »

Quote from: Hooker on October 11, 2010, 10:48:32 AM

Liberals don't have anything better to do than make others pay for their desires.
And troll on web sites that are Conservative

Pat

What makes this a "Conservative WEB site?" As far as I know this is just a website for those who enjoy Hunting , Fishing , camping etc.. Folks who contribute are from all walks of life , ethnicity, political and religious backgrounds. They all share their viewpoints on a number of issues, and have all navigated here cause it's a great website that has a common community of all who share their love of the great Outdoors.

I never saw a Sign that states "Greybeards Conservative Outdoors" Only conservatives should contribute. Actually what it states is :

Welcome to Graybeard Outdoors

This site is dedicated to enjoying the great outdoors. Whether you are a hunter, shooter, fisherman or just love the outdoors we invite you to browse through our site and hope that you will find it useful and informative.

Personally I like to read all the different view points from all different vantage points on various subjects.
I hope all from every different position continue to contribute.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #14 on:** October 12, 2010, 06:39:31 AM »

When you consider the rules imposed by GB. You can see a conservative air. He does not restrict to right wing but allows only post with and effort to up hold family and Bible values . A great site to be sure. It some what restricts the liberal anything goes attitude. As someone who is right of center I find it a comfortable place to exchange ideas.

Tommyt · « **Reply #15 on:** October 12, 2010, 06:45:31 AM »

Quote from: scootrd on October 11, 2010, 02:54:39 PM

Quote from: Hooker on October 11, 2010, 10:48:32 AM
Liberals don't have anything better to do than make others pay for their desires.
And troll on web sites that are Conservative

Pat

What makes this a "Conservative WEB site?" As far as I know this is just a website for those who enjoy Hunting , Fishing , camping etc.. Folks who contribute are from all walks of life , ethnicity, political and religious backgrounds. They all share their viewpoints on a number of issues, and have all navigated here cause it's a great website that has a common community of all who share their love of the great Outdoors.

I never saw a Sign that states "Greybeards Conservative Outdoors" Only conservatives should contribute. Actually what it states is :

Welcome to Graybeard Outdoors

This site is dedicated to enjoying the great outdoors. Whether you are a hunter, shooter, fisherman or just love the outdoors we invite you to browse through our site and hope that you will find it useful and informative.

Personally I like to read all the different view points from all different vantage points on various subjects.
I hope all from every different position continue to contribute.

If you don't think this web sight leans Conservative you may not be reading it very well,
or your comprehension is Dyslexic

JMHO

Tommyt

guzzijohn · « **Reply #16 on:** October 12, 2010, 07:21:39 AM »

This site may attract more on the conservative side but believe it or not some of us liberals enjoy hunting and fishing along with shooting. I think it's great that Greybeard wants this site to be family friendly and lean toward biblical values. There is enough other trash on the internet so it is kind of nice to have a more "clean" site. On the other hand I will repeat that I would think that a conservative site would embrace free speech as that is one of the kingpins of the constitution. If I listen and read nothing but what is put out by democrats I am not going to be able to make informed decisions and votes. Same as if all I listened to and read was only conservative material. We all need to do what we can to to gain information from all points of view then an INFORMED decision can be made whether you or I agree with that decision or not. If a person only allows themselves to be exposed to information that only feeds one point of view that person cannot make an informed decision IMHO.
GuzziJohn

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #17 on:** October 12, 2010, 07:27:54 AM »

guzzijohn , I could not agree more and often wonder why liberals want to shut down right leaning radio or adds that offer their opinion when right wing folks don't try to shut down left of center radio , they wouldn't even if one was succesful enough to stay on the air.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #18 on:** October 12, 2010, 07:52:06 AM »

Quote from Shootall:

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guzzijohn , I could not agree more and often wonder why liberals want to shut down right leaning radio or adds that offer their opinion when right wing folks don't try to shut down left of center radio , they wouldn't even if one was succesful enough to stay on the air.

I have not heard of a serious attempt to shut down conservative radio, I certainly hope not and I would see that as a BIG violation of our constitution. I have heard comments from both sides that would like to shut the other down but that is just stupid talk and I would see that as a big error. I get very concerned when I hear either a liberal or a conservative brag that they only hear and read what supports their side. I must say however that it is much easier to listen to conservative talk radio than liberal talk radio as there is not a single liberal talk show on any of the stations in my listening area but are many conservative talk shows.
GuzziJohn

lakota · « **Reply #19 on:** October 12, 2010, 08:13:36 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on October 12, 2010, 07:52:06 AM

Quote from Shootall:
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guzzijohn , I could not agree more and often wonder why liberals want to shut down right leaning radio or adds that offer their opinion when right wing folks don't try to shut down left of center radio , they wouldn't even if one was succesful enough to stay on the air.

I have not heard of a serious attempt to shut down conservative radio, I certainly hope not and I would see that as a BIG violation of our constitution. I have heard comments from both sides that would like to shut the other down but that is just stupid talk and I would see that as a big error. I get very concerned when I hear either a liberal or a conservative brag that they only hear and read what supports their side. I must say however that it is much easier to listen to conservative talk radio than liberal talk radio as there is not a single liberal talk show on any of the stations in my listening area but are many conservative talk shows.
GuzziJohn

Are you kidding me? They(liberals) have been talking about bringing the "fairness doctrine" back ever since they won the majority. This would effectively shut down conservative talk radio.

scootrd · « **Reply #20 on:** October 12, 2010, 08:16:10 AM »

Tommy t - I know which way it appears to lean, but that's truly not the point (or in the very least that's a very simplistic point you are trying to emhasize).

GB's is not a conservative website. It's an outdoor Site. All are free to contribute.

I love this website , and want to read all points of view and discussion with GB or Mods censoring no one as long as they play withing the rules GB has in place. I may not agree with some Liberal arguments , as well as I May not agree with some conservative arguments. I do not watch TV , and I want to stay informed. GB's forum is one of the places I tune into for exchanges of ideas. I want to read , listen , and educate myself on all various views approached on a given subject.

what I do submit , is there are a few contributors to this website (in both camps) that tend to have very loud voices in print and strong steadfast convictions in what they believe, and tend to voice them more often. But I would never want either camp to be censored based on whether the majorities agreed or disagreed with what thought was being shared.

Information is knowledge, in this day and age it's important to be educated about both sides of a given topic of discussion.

Good luck - Good hunting

powderman · « **Reply #21 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:05:46 AM »

guzzijohn. You have stated that you are a liberal, pretty apparent to all here. As a liberal do you support the liberal, dem agenda of being pro death, pro gay and anti gun for just a few examples??? If so, how do you believe your church feels about those things??? I know several mennonites and they would be appalled if their church supported killing babies and homosexual marriage, both of which are abominations in Gods eyes. Is that the opinion of your church?

POWDERMAN.

dukkillr · « **Reply #22 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:19:12 AM »

Quote from: powderman on October 12, 2010, 09:05:46 AM

guzzijohn. You have stated that you are a liberal, pretty apparent to all here. As a liberal do you support the liberal, dem agenda of being pro death, pro gay and anti gun for just a few examples??? If so, how do you believe your church feels about those things??? I know several mennonites and they would be appalled if their church supported killing babies and homosexual marriage, both of which are abominations in Gods eyes. Is that the opinion of your church? POWDERMAN.

That sounds like an absolutely fantastic question to answer by PM. GB got rid of the religion section for exactly this reason. Plus it's off topic.

guzzijohn · « **Reply #23 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:31:01 AM »

To Powderman:
There is my view and there is my church view. Both myself and my church do not support abortion but it is MY belief that is between the women, her God if religious and her doctor. Neither I nor my church believe in the death penalty but I would guess and correct me if I am wrong that you are pro death penalty which makes you as pro death as a person that supports abortion IMHO. It is my guess that the my church does not support homosexual marriage ( it has never been a topic of a sermon or in a Sunday school that is why I say guess) but I am certain it believes that a homosexual person can enter heaven if they believe in Jesus Christ and being saved. We are all sinners and Jesus's death on the cross makes it where sinners can still go to heaven. Myself and my church would in no way turn away or shun a person who is homosexual. My Mennonite church does not believe in violence (here again I disagree with some who say they would not defend themselves or family because that is violence) but is not anti gun or anti hunting. I currently own 11 firearms so I guess you can figure where I stand on that. An example that our church has brought up is several hundred years ago a Mennonite man was arrested for his religious views and sentenced to death. A guard was walking him across a frozen river when the guard fell through the ice but the Mennonite man did not. Instead of escaping he saved the guard and was then executed. That is an example of from our church teachings on how to treat your fellow man.
GuzziJohn

guzzijohn · « **Reply #24 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:33:19 AM »

My apology for not doing a PM on that. In the heat of thought I forgot that I really should not have openly posted that, but then I was baited and bit.
GuzziJohn

dukkillr · « **Reply #25 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:38:51 AM »

Quote from: guzzijohn on October 12, 2010, 09:33:19 AM

My apology for not doing a PM on that. In the heat of thought I forgot that I really should not have openly posted that, but then I was baited and bit.
GuzziJohn

I noticed.

Please dont force me to lock or delete this thread... The topic is this old email forward... can we get back to that and stay away from debating the merits of one person's religious views?

jimster · « **Reply #26 on:** October 12, 2010, 10:31:08 AM »

To the original post, I have have read this before and got a chuckle, seemed pretty true to me in most cases.

The thread took a turn when someone gave their view on what some one thinks a conservative is, using different a few different scenario's...example:

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If a black family moves onto the block a liberal will send a welcome wagon.
A conservative will be making plans to move to the burbs.

This is an opinion of what someone (not necessarily the the poster guzzijohn, he may have just been giving a different take on it) may think a conservative is. The very word conservative has been twisted around for poitical reasons, but acually is a very good word.

I have black friends...my fathers best pal he worked with for many decades was black, so I myself don't understand what conservative has to do with this, but I must take into consideration the word has been changed to suit the needs of some people. Well, a lot of people actually.

So the thread took a turn from this point on and exploded into a bunch of other things, as they always do as soon as one word was interpreted to mean something..like in the example above, conservative means racist. How easy it is to throw off a thread eh?

Concerning the original post by TommyT...yep...seems that way most times don't it.

powderman · « **Reply #27 on:** October 12, 2010, 11:26:07 AM »

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If a Conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
If a Liberal is homosexual, he demands legislated respect.

duk. The above quote was from the opening post. Theres no reason to lock this thread. I asked questions, guzzi answered them, simple as that.You certainly seem to support the liberals for some strange reason. We are all adults here and were doing fine. What I asked was part of the original first post, I don't understand your complaint. POWDERMAN.

Hooker · « **Reply #28 on:** October 12, 2010, 03:01:59 PM »

One question that begs an answer.
Why are some Liberal in their thinking and politics yet they love guns hunting,fishing and outdoor endevours?
These activities are under attack daily by Liberal politicians and groups that would like nothing more than to ban them.
If the the liberals among us are not trolls then perhaps they are conservatives in denial.

Pat

powderman · « **Reply #29 on:** October 12, 2010, 05:12:01 PM »

HOOKER. YEP, don't make a lick of sense. I remember a guy on another board that was a big dem supporter, yet he claimed to like the shooting sports. The owner saw him for what he was and banned him. He was actually an anti gunner there only to divide the hunters and shooters and cause conflict. POWDERMAN.