H&R Ultra 223 into a Youth Rifle - Stock issue

[ouray]

All,

This is my first post on this forum but I have been a "lurker" for years.  The wealth of knownledge on this particular forum is "off the charts".  A number of years ago, I bought a Ultra 223 - a true shooter.  I liked it so much is sent off for a 7mm-08 and 50 caliber muzzleloader barrel.  At the same time, I also got from H&R, a youth laminate stock, as I was hoping to utilize the gun as a trainer with my two twin daughters and a natural setup from their 22lr rifle.  Well, that time has come!  They are 11 years old.

Issue:

The youth laminated stock I bought from H&R years ago is a straight comb youth laminate stock.  The LOP is fine but when my daughters shoulder the firearm & look through the scope (the scope is set as low as I can get it), their cheek is about an 1in or so off the stock.  I didn't think about this potential "minor" issue when I got the stock years ago and stored it away for future use.

What are my options?  I was thinking about a comb raising kit ($20) from Cabela's but I'm afraid the youth stock may be too small to secure the kit (it may be too loose).  Maybe a different youth stock may be more appropriate but is H&R the only place to get a laminate youth stock with the appropraite comb?  

If I keep the straight comb stock & use the comb riser kit, i was also planning on replacing the recoil pad with a small limbsaver slip on pad.

Your thoughts and help are appreciated!

[necchi]

I don't think it's the stock, and I also think it may be a non-issue all together.

 Unless there is a true discomfort in the way the girls "hold" too see through the scope and fire, it may well be that's just how a gun fit's them. If a cheek is high on the stock, who's to say that hold is improper,?
 I'd make a trip with the girls to a sporting goods store with a large selection of guns on the rack,,and have them hold several different gun's, granted you'll find many that are too long a pull and maybe a bit heavy, but just have them grip the stock and NOT the trigger and watch how they "cheek" the stock. Watch and look more than guide,,Do they have the shoulder an Butt in the right place? Bring a tape measure in case you find one they like and fit's good.

 That 11 1/2" pull on the youth stock was too short for my boy even at 11, an girls can grow faster than boy's. If they have the hand in their face it may be too short,,,12 1/2 was better. An those adult stocks at 13 1/2 and 14 are too big for me!!

[spikehorn]

Put the straight grip laminate on the Want to trade forum and trade for a youth monte carlo stock

[gendoc]

better than that,   sell me the youth straight set, if its camo laminated.
 and i'll pay complete for what you can purchase a youth synthetic or wood m/c set for...shipping included.
just a thought !!!

BTW.... welcome to the world of handi madness !!!  yes, we are all sick 

[gcrank1]

Then there is always that elastic ammo sleeve on the butt with some wadding under it to bring the 'comb' up.
Hard to beat that generous  'buy-out' offer though, I think I'd go for that asap.

[ouray]

Unforunately, the youth straight stock is in cinnamon laminate.  I bought it to match the original stock.

Although, one could go for the "mix and match" approach with two different colors!  Some kids may think thats cool. 

I'm going to have the girls reshoulder the gun (as well as a few others) to see if I have the right LOP again.  Then, I may call H&R next week to see about a monte carlo stock in cinnamon laminate and go from there.

The most important thing is I want them to have fun!  Making sure it fits and works for them is important to me.  These girls are like their mama, it has to be "right".

[gendoc]

well the cin lams might work too...
just let me know if you wanna do that.
thanks 

[gcrank1]

Keep in mind, for the girls, that the lam stocks are heavier than the 'pallet wood' (not sure how the syn compare, but I think its in the FAQs). You might want to keep it as light as possible. Along that line, the youth shotgun forestock is smaller and lighter too.

[tacklebury]

Might try something like this cheek piece.  The tall one is 3/4". 

[mechanic]

Pick up a piece of foam pipe insulation for 1" or larger pipe.  A stick should cost about $2.00.  Cut off a piece and split it down it's seam.  Stick it on top of the lam stock with two sided tape.  Done.  Nice soft cheek rest, and when you take it off, just wash and scrub away the residue from the tape.  I have this set up on my 45-70 and it works great, and the recoil doesn't  dislocate my jaw.....

[ouray]

All,

Thanks for your comments and advice.  I'll spend some more time with my daughters to ensure I get the proper fit in which ever way I end up going.

To grank1 & mechanic,

I love your "outside of the box" solutions!  Thanks.

To gendoc,
 
PM sent.

[MSP Ret]

you could also post a WTB for a just a youth Monte Carlo buttstock and use it until they outgrew it and then sell it to another member with youngsters....<><....

[briannmilewis]

Buy a riser from Combathunting.com for $8.95. Worked great on the 22 Hornet Youth Stock we had. If you are going to use a Limbsaver slip-on it works well on getting some extra length of pull (1") and when it is over the stock recoil pad, even more recoil goes away. If you don't want the extra LOP then remove the original recoil pad, shave 1" off the stock length, reinstall the recoil pad then add the Limbsaver.

[tony212]

Just a suggestion, I bought my nephew an ATI collapsable stock for his .223 a couple of years ago.  It fit him perfectly when completely collapsed.  As he has grown we have just used the length adjustment so it continues to fit him.  He should be able to use it right up to adult size.  Just a thought.
Tony212

[myarmor]

I echo mechaics remark,if the length of pull is right get a foam pad and tape it to the buttstock and to hide it get an ammo butstock carrier to cover it up like this one:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=408027
Works great for me and my wife....



-Aaron