i understand what i need, i just didnt know if one was a little better than the other, if you know what i mean...lol...  i posted it here because i see many of you guys reload your own ammo. and figure i would start here.  i thank you very much.  oh by the way, if you guys got any recipes for some good shootin, let me know.  i love this rfle, and a good buddy of mine was shootin with me, and i let him shoot it.  at 200 yds. he hit the bowling pins, and fell in love.  i tried to shoot his remington 22-250, and got close... hehe..  but very nice rifles.. brian