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Offline petemi

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.357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« on: March 17, 2010, 06:32:29 AM »
This past winter I did some sighting in with the .44, .45 and .357s.  I put targets in front of snow banks and drifts at 50 yards.  Well, the snow's all gone, and I was walking through there yesterday and glanced down at the bare ground.  There was a bullet.  I looked around some more and found 5 bullets within a 6 inch circle.  three .44s and two .357s.  All but one .357 were unmarked except for rifleing marks.  The snow had melted and left them high and dry.  I would guess they went about ten feet through the fairly hard snow beyond the target.  

Just thought it interesting.

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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 07:29:13 AM »
What is the corrolation coefficient between ballistic geletin and packed snow?  NOTHING!  It is undefined!    What does this information tell us?  NOTHING again!   Two for two.  They are dissimilar materials and exclusive in their properties!  Should any corrolation consider the effect of heat and melting of the ice or geletin?  WHO KNOWS?  WHO CARES?  My meds are too high today!

It is quite remarkable and coincidental that all six were in close proximity. 
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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 07:37:47 AM »
Hmmmm, a ballistic moraine!!  ;D

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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 07:41:28 AM »
Quote from: Land_Owner on March 17, 2010, 07:29:13 AM
It is quite remarkable and coincidental that all six were in close proximity. 

That's the only point I was trying to make.

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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 07:45:10 AM »
Ive been 'recovering' my bullets that way for some years. Other than the delayed time frame, I often find the engraving, etc. of interest as I'm always checking for base band erosion and such. An imperfect medium, to be sure, but the hunt is kind of like that for Morrel mushrooms, find one and there are likely more.
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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 08:05:25 AM »
All good searches.....morrel mushrooms, shed antlers and spent bullets.  The sheds and bullets are here now, and with this mild weather, the shrooms may not be far behind.  We picked up a nice half an eight point shed the other day under an apple tree top of the hill behind the barn.

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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 08:08:48 AM »
Quote from: petemi
That's the only point I was trying to make.

I know Pete.  I was just spicing it up.  Or so I thought.  Tim got it.
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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2010, 02:01:20 PM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on March 17, 2010, 07:37:47 AM
Hmmmm, a ballistic moraine!!  ;D

Tim

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"moraine"? You been watching Jeopardy again?
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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2010, 02:19:33 PM »
Years ago I shot some 270 cal. 130 gr Rem bronze points and some 22 long rifles into a snowbank. When the snow melted the 22s looked like Pete said, but the bronze points were completely shattered. That's when I quit shooting bronze points, and am now very suspicious of bullets with plastic in the nose.
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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2010, 04:16:22 PM »
Quote from: Big Blue on March 17, 2010, 02:01:20 PM
Quote from: quickdtoo on March 17, 2010, 07:37:47 AM
Hmmmm, a ballistic moraine!!  ;D

Tim

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"moraine"? You been watching Jeopardy again?
Don

No, never watched it,  I love Discovery Channel and Nat Geo tho.  ;)

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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2010, 04:39:47 PM »
Pete, ya had me worried! :o  I was afraid you were only gettin 6" groups outa the barrel I sent ya. :-[  I was about to crawl to the UP on my knees to beg ya for fergivness.  Have ya put that one on paper yet?  DP
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Re: .357 and .44 grouping 6 inches at 50 yards????
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2010, 12:03:00 AM »
DP, haven't got it yet.  Might be here today.  I'll give ya a shout when it shows up.  I'll put her red dot on and have her shooting in minutes when it arrives.

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