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Offline nw_hunter

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Jaun McCain
« on: March 16, 2010, 10:47:02 AM »


The Globalist Neocon Jaun McCain is at it again!

He has introduced two bills in
the US Senate. S.3081, a bill that would authorize the federal government to
detain American citizens indefinitely without trial, and S.3002, a bill that
would authorize the federal government to regulate vitamins, minerals, and
virtually all health and natural food products.

This was the man the RNC hand picked to run against O'Bammy........Some choice huh?
And some of my Republican friends actually voted for the O man, because they couldn't stand the thought of McCain at the helm, and took a chance on the change O. promised.........."LMAO"

Sad thing is, after his voting record and introducing bill's like these,MOST registered Republicans would vote for him again, if the RNC decided to run him again. (GO FIGURE)

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Re: Jaun McCain
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 11:08:59 AM »
He would have made a poor excuse for a president for sure. My hope was he'd get elected then the excitement of it would have given him a fatal heart attack er sumpin and Sarah would have stepped in to replace him.

The ONLY good thing I can think of that has come from the one we got instead is that he took quite a few folks out of jobs in congress that really needed to be gone from there. Sadly I can think of nothing else even remotely good to have come from his illegal election so far and every day it just gets worse.


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Re: Jaun McCain
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 11:33:13 AM »
The ONLY good thing I can think of that has come from the one we got instead is that he took quite a few folks out of jobs in congress that really needed to be gone from there. Sadly I can think of nothing else even remotely good to have come from his illegal election so far and every day it just gets worse.


Ain't that the truth!


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Re: Jaun McCain
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2010, 12:05:20 PM »
As bad as the bill seems, the feds could already take into custody American citizens, without arrest warrants, search houses without search warrants, and hold Americans, and property indefinitely under GW Bush's PATRIOT ACT, and by the way they'd vote for that jackass again too, and swear he was better than Obama. There ain't a nickel's worth of difference between the three.
AND! nw_hunter, your right. The same ones here that voted for McCain would vote for him again, and try to justify it all the way, while bashing Independent voters like me. There's nothing I can do about it, and when they get all our rights traded away, maybe they'll be satisfied. I quit caring, and will most likely be dead anyway.
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Re: Jaun McCain
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 12:46:52 PM »
As bad as the bill seems, the feds could already take into custody American citizens, without arrest warrants, search houses without search warrants, and hold Americans, and property indefinitely under GW Bush's PATRIOT ACT, and by the way they'd vote for that jackass again too, and swear he was better than Obama. There ain't a nickel's worth of difference between the three.
AND! nw_hunter, your right. The same ones here that voted for McCain would vote for him again, and try to justify it all the way, while bashing Independent voters like me. There's nothing I can do about it, and when they get all our rights traded away, maybe they'll be satisfied. I quit caring, and will most likely be dead anyway.

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Re: Jaun McCain
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 12:52:58 PM »
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He would have made a poor excuse for a president for sure. My hope was he'd get elected then the excitement of it would have given him a fatal heart attack er sumpin and Sarah would have stepped in to replace him.


+1 Bill,

How's all the hope and change working for you guys!
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Re: Jaun McCain
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 11:20:26 PM »
Well guys I voted for Juan but the more I read of GB and Dee I might be gettin converted. 'specially after viewing this Andrew Napolitano tonight.  I heard of the Patriot Act, some of its problems and our Alaskan Congressman claimed he was going to push for changes - but don't think he did. I'm rocked by this self written warrant stuff I just saw tonight. I've been writing furiously to our whole DC delegation, kind of debating our new Dem senator. Even written a couple other states' people who might listen on health care. Shoot I'm amazed when a liberal news mag like Newsweek starts publishing articles that the health care bill is an unaffordable mirage.

A Cost-Control Mirage
Obama is telling people what they want to hear about health care, not what they need to know.
By Robert J. Samuelson | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Mar 15, 2010 | Updated: 1:18  p.m. ET Mar 15, 2010
http://www.newsweek.com/id/234953
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Re: Jaun McCain
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2010, 04:44:48 AM »
John McCain was not hand picked by the Republican Party.  He ran in the primaries like several others.  Like it, or not, it was the voters who chose McCain.  I still believe that he would never have gotten the nod if the primary system weren't such a farce  By the time my state gets to vote in a primary, most if not all the candidates, but one have been eliminated.

Now maybe George Bush wasn't George Washington, but to say that he was the same as Osama is just dumb.  If it weren't for Dubya, we might well have had Algore, or maybe even worse--John Effing Kerry for a President. 

I know that short of having Ron Paul for President, some of you will never be satisfied and that's fine.  I'd take Mr. Paul any day, but he isn't perfect either.  Whether, or not I'd want George Bush back as President, all depends on the other choices.  One thing is for damned sure; I'd take George W. Bush over the piece of crap that we have.
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Re: Jaun McCain
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2010, 05:24:37 AM »
 As bad as Obama is    -- Mr McCain  would have been close to as bad   --- At

least now some Democrats are saying  I voted wrong....

If McCain got in,,,, I Would have had to say" I VOTED WRONG"
 McCain make Ron Paul look very good  --  My hope is in the tea party.. The RNC is lost    Dan

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Re: Jaun McCain
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2010, 07:36:04 AM »
Now maybe George Bush wasn't George Washington, but to say that he was the same as Osama is just dumb.  If it weren't for Dubya, we might well have had Algore, or maybe even worse--John Effing Kerry for a President. 

I know that short of having Ron Paul for President, some of you will never be satisfied and that's fine.  I'd take Mr. Paul any day, but he isn't perfect either.  Whether, or not I'd want George Bush back as President, all depends on the other choices.  One thing is for damned sure; I'd take George W. Bush over the piece of crap that we have.
You're right, of course.  That is the problem with the "No Lesser of Two Evils" theory.  Every single human being on this planet is flawed.  The only person I could vote for that would not be some form of lesser is myself, and that's only because I match my own beliefs perfectly.  Unfortunately (or fortunately) no one else matches me perfectly, just like no one matches any of the rest of you perfectly. 

So people cop out on that problem by saying, "I'll vote for the guy who supports the Constitution!"  like there one candidate who always runs, is available in any position on the ballot, and wears a name tag that says, "I support the Constitution".  Even then, this idea that one can support the Constitution with 100% accuracy is nuts.  For instance, the Fifth Amendment grants us the legal right to "Due Process".  When one looks for further clarification there is no definition of what that means and while there is case law that goes back to England, there is no finite rule or rules.  So, two different candidates can look at the Constitution and declare wildly different views on what due process rights you may have, and still claim to "Support the Constitution". 

I believe that the Constitution supports the notion of being Pro-Choice, and I've written that argument out in more detail here before.  (Please don't make this an abortion argument, it's just an example.)  I have a great deal of time and experience studying the Constitution and the Bill or Rights, and I believe my argument is right.  Rest assured others who "Vote the Constitution" wouldn't agree with what I am saying.  But I could still claim to "Vote the Constitution 100% of the time" even as I angered pro-lifers with what they believe is an unconstitutional stance.

Every time I see a thread that tries to make things appear so simple it scares me.  The essence of being an educated voter is just that, being educated.  That doesn't mean going to school, it means understanding the realities of an issue.  When someone comes along and simply dismisses all of that in favor of an ideology that removes intelligent reflection, I worry.