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Offline Foxxtrot

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If you efile your taxes this year
« on: March 16, 2010, 07:57:15 AM »
Be aware that the states are going to request you send them paper copies of everything and ask to see your Federal return as well.

It seems after speaking with a few tax attorneys that the states are attempting to slow the process of payment and checking everything to reduce payment.
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 08:08:36 AM »
HMMMMmmmmm!  go figger that!
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 09:16:57 AM »
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2010, 11:10:31 AM »
I e-filed both my returns a month or so ago.  State (SC) never asked for a paper copy of anything.  Both my returns have been approved already and both refunds have already been deposited into my checking account.

Though I have nothing to do with income taxes, I can say as someone who works in property taxes (moreso the computer systems involved in processing them, rather than the tax law part, but I still have to learn a good bit of that to manage the software code), we're pushing as hard as we can to eliminate as much paper as possible.  When things get electronically submitted (ie, e-file), they go into a database where we can do mass queries, comparisons, etc instantly.  When you mail in a paper form, we have to have a human being add that data into the computer system manually (there are OCR programs that can do some level of this automatically, but they can't recognize handwriting, and they're not accurate enough to trust tax data to even on printed information).  Those extra people cost money, and that step of transferring it from paper into the computers is another step for error to creep in.

Honestly, I'm not sure I can see any government organization explicitly asking for paper when digital data is available.

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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 11:24:02 AM »
I really dont worry about the paperwork as much as I question is it maybe a stall tactic to hold taxpayers money longer.

Some states are holding refunds cause they dont have the money!

As TN said God Bless Texas!
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 12:02:15 PM »
I was an IT Director for a rapidly growing Seminary/Bible College in NC for a few years, and of course everything was going digital, even the library was going digital, to save on human resource cost, as well as facility cost (although I think in the long run that last one hasn't seen a lot of cost saving). Anyway, an old professor asked me what happens when you turn the power off.  Before I get the technology lecture he was talking at the macro level ... there are redundancies to mitigate power failure, but he was talking when the power stays off. It was not a stupid question then, and its not a stupid question now.

And the same system that makes it easy to query for data modeling makes it easy to change. All it takes is access and authority. There was a run on small liberal arts colleges about a decade ago; hackers were breaking into the bursars systems and taking tax, credit, and social security information from automated student records. The Federal and State tax systems are like all systems; vulnerable. No such thing as 100% secure.

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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 03:52:19 PM »
Vermont wants everything last piece of paper this year since we left that left leaning fascist commune.  SC just wanted my 1099 and W2s.
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 04:33:34 PM »
Filed mine and the families by mail on Feb 22nd and have already gotten my state refund back.
Not a word on the Fed yet.
I guess VA must have the money on hand.



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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2010, 05:51:26 PM »
MN never asked for mine.
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2010, 06:09:10 PM »
Also from MN. My state refund was deposited in my account within 3 days, no questions asked. Took less than 2 weeks for the Federal refund.

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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 07:06:26 PM »
PA went fine, approved in 2 days, refund in a little over a week.
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2010, 10:05:48 PM »
Didn't have any issues with IA or NE needing paper copies.
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 05:01:23 AM »
Why are so many folks happy about getting a refund?  Don't you realize that that means the government has had your money and hasn't paid you a penny for having custody of it for months.  Ronald Reagan was right when he said that everyone should have to write a check for their entire tax liability at the end of the year (or by April 15th).   

You can bet that the pain of paying taxes would be felt by Congress as well as the masses and maybe, just maybe our taxes wouldn't be where they are now.

And by the way--Texas isn't the only state that doesn't have a state income tax, but God bless them anyway and Washington.
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 05:06:34 AM »
NYS has suspended refunds between today and March 31 as they have hit their .1.25 billion refund cap for March. Been on the books forever, guess more people are efiling earlier.

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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 07:48:41 AM »
Quote from: magooch
..everyone should have to write a check for their entire tax liability at the end of the year...

+1 (sort of). 

We EXTEND our return annually, awaiting information from others, and an ESTIMATED TAX is REQUIRED to be submitted (on the order of 1/3 of the total tax), with incremental payments made in like amounts until the return is submitted - to avoid added PENALTIES AND INTEREST.

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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2010, 07:51:54 AM »
http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/87421/

maybe this is why they want every little detail this year.

There are new signs that Vermont's economy is not coming out of the recession as quickly as anticipated.

The Douglas Administration says an unexpected drop in state revenues over the last two months means that there will need to be more cuts in next year's budget.

VPR's Bob Kinzel reports.

(Kinzel) The new revenue numbers come at a time when the House and Senate Appropriations committees are trying to close a $150 million gap in next year's budget.

This job just got harder because state revenues fell $15 million below new revised projections in January and February.

Administration Secretary Neale Lunderville says the decline means that there will need to be further cuts in next year's budget:

(Lunderville) "The data that we're seeing now seems to indicate that we were too optimistic about the economic recovery and that's not only for the current fiscal year but it would be for next fiscal year as well."

(Kinzel) The biggest decline came in personal income tax revenues. Lunderville says individual withholding taxes are down, but more importantly, he says the initial size of income tax refunds is larger than the state expected:

(Lunderville) "If they're not working as many hours or they've lost a job or they're not seeing the money come back as quickly as they anticipated - there are a lot of factors there, none of which are particularly good for signs of our recovery."

(Kinzel) Economist Art Woolf says there are some positive signs on the horizon for the Vermont economy.

He says some businesses are seeing an increase in orders but he says it may be awhile before this increase translates into more jobs:

(Woolf) "They're hesitant to hire, they're worried about the future and they're waiting to see if the increase in orders is just temporary or if it's permanent. And once it goes on for a few months they'll be much more likely to hire workers and we'll  start seeing job growth return slowly.

(Kinzel) And Woolf says it may be years before Vermont's employment market fully recovers from the recession:

(Woolf) "Nobody thinks that we're going to get out of this recession either nationally or in Vermont with any kind of speed. It's going to be probably on the order of years like 3 or 4 years before we get back the job counts and the job numbers that we had in 2006 and 2007."

(Kinzel) Woolf says he's also encouraged that initial filings for unemployment benefits are lower than they were a year ago - he says that's another sign that most companies are stabilizing their workforce.
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2010, 08:28:12 AM »
Is it not blatantly predictable that unemployment has a snowball effect? i.e. more qualified deductions, lower tax revenues both individual and corporate? Unlike the Fed, states can't print money. States should be fighting to keep as much $ in their state as possible, and send less to the Fed. The Fed wants them to send more and promises funding in return (census). But the Fed controls that $. So the states give up even more autonomy when they're hungry.

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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2010, 08:46:53 AM »


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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2010, 09:09:51 AM »
I e-filed mine back in January and got my federal return in 10 days and mailed a check to the state the same day.  Does anyone else see the flaw in my statement?  I OWED the state, but the FED sent me a nice fat CHECK!  I do NOT pay taxes during the year since I am self-employed.  If it weren't for FEDERAL handouts via the Earned Income Credit I would owe taxes, but because I work and don't make a lot of money I am rewarded with free money.  I know I shouldn't be complaining about getting something for absolutely NOTHING, but we wonder why our country is in such debt.  I should be working to support my family without incentive from the Government.  There should be no reward for falling in a certain income bracket...people have to work to survive. Why should the ones who are successful be punished?  If my income goes up, then I get no refund, but have to pay?  That gives no incentive to be successful, but leave most CONTENT to simply getting by during the year and getting a few grand at the tax payers expense once a year.  It just isn't right!

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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2010, 10:57:03 AM »
Heather, I appreciate your honest perspective on the EIC. Between that and other incentives, in a few years only 25% of the employable (important adjective) population will pay any federal income tax. Of the 75%, most will receive $ directly from the Fed. But the burden of funding the HC program, the revamp of Education, and all the other pipe dreams past present and future will sit squarely on the backs of only 25% of the population mainly from the technology sector, small business, and middle to upper management. Sadly less than 20% of those tax payers will vote while a much larger percentage of the tax beneficiaries will vote and lobby!
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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2010, 11:02:16 AM »
How do you get a fat check from the fed AND send money to the state. You can just transfer the overpayment from the fed to the state. Ask your accountant.

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Re: If you efile your taxes this year
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2010, 12:54:21 PM »
How do you get a fat check from the fed AND send money to the state. You can just transfer the overpayment from the fed to the state. Ask your accountant.

I'm just the type of person who believes if you want something done right then do it yourself.  I am capable of writing a check and as long as I am I will handle my own financial affairs and not rely on someone else to pay my taxes even if it is with my new free money.

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