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Offline Swampman

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.444 with 240 grain bullets
« on: March 10, 2010, 03:55:35 PM »
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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 06:00:53 PM »
Dont shoot the 240 but 270 GDSP and H-335
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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 02:31:10 AM »
[Dont shoot the 240 ]

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Sorry - I gave up on 240gr slugs in the .444 in 1967, since my game experiences with them (deer) were all bad. ( factory JSP's)

I moved to the 265gr Hornady JSP/FP & 4198, with much better terminal performance, and never saw a need to change since.

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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 03:09:14 AM »
I'm thinking they'll kill our 100lb deer.  They shoot really flat and sub-MOA in my rifle.
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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 09:18:26 AM »
Quote from: Rangr44 on March 11, 2010, 02:31:10 AM
[Dont shoot the 240 ]



I moved to the 265gr Hornady JSP/FP & 4198, with much better terminal performance, and never saw a need to change since.

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Did the same and came to the same result. 240 gr bullet construction is stressed out with 44 Mag carbine velocities never mind 444 level.
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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2010, 09:22:29 AM »
Where are you shooting your 100 lb deer? Florida?

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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 09:28:37 AM »
Yes I'm in FL.  I'd like to get 2350 out of my 22" barrel.  I've been looking at 3031 & 4198.
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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 11:33:56 AM »
swamp I'v taken deer with the 240 speer gold dot soft point just fine and it works good for the 100 lb. deer we have here but I use the 270 gold dot because of hog's that way the same bullet works for both. If you take a nice hog with the 240 gr. let us know because I also like the idea of it shooting a littel flater and how the bullet performed.
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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 12:04:59 PM »
Two favorite powders are 4198 and VV N120 or N130 with the 240 gn jacketed, and those loads should work just fine on Whitetail.  Both rate at 2400'/sec or better.  However, if you would like to try cast loads, go to Veral Smith's Forum for his input on cast slugs in the 444 and go to Beartooth Bullets for their take on it too, you might be very pleasantly surprised..........jmtcw.
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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 12:15:31 PM »
Animal size/weight didn't make any difference with 240gr bullets in my .444.

They blew up on the near shoulder at woods ranges, w/o adequate penetration to keep the animal from running off................ far off.

JMO, but a bullet designed to perform @ .44 mag velocities won't do well at 2400fps.

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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 12:26:23 PM »
And that's why Remington uses them?
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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 04:45:22 PM »
I have shot many deer with 240s, mostly JSP's. I don't know or worry about speed as I dont have a chrono, but my load is 46gr of 4198,it produces 1.125 groups, and I think it is 2250-2300 fps. Most of the bullets get clean pass through, but on quartering shots I have sometimes recovered slugs under the offside hide, they were picture book mushrooms. That on 130-150 pound deer here in Mo. @ ranges from 40 to 220 yards.
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Re: .444 with 240 grain bullets
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2010, 04:13:53 AM »
Quote from: Swampman on March 11, 2010, 12:26:23 PM
And that's why Remington uses them?

The Remington factory ammo was the ONLY .444 ammo commercially available to me in 1967, and was what was blowing up on the near shoulder of the deer I was shooting.

This was (and still "is") in the Maine bush - where the deer can run big ( I've taken two, 200lbs +, field dressed) and the shooting close (under 50yds, sometimes waaaay under).

That was what drove me to handloading - it was the only way to get a heavier bullet to shoot in my .444 ( the Hornady 265gr was also the only choice, back then).

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