The woman whose car was speeding down a Texas highway at 100 miles and hour

[Sheila]

I am just begining to think she made that story up. For one thing if you put your car in reverse at 100 miles an hour, you are going to destroy your transmission, and her saying she finaliy got the car to stop, that dosn't seem right either. Here's probably what happened. She had the gas pedal all the way down the floor, it didn't get stuck, and the reason why she slowed down is because she got pulled over by a cop. She was speeding.

[rex6666]

I  have not heard the story, but i have accidently put a car in reverse
at 70 mph and nothing happened was like putting it in neatural, of course
i didn't leave it there very long

[wreckhog]

I went skiing with a rental Camry and my bud dressed in bibs and ski boots knocked the automatic tranny from D to R 3 times going from Vail to Denver. Stalled the car at highway speeds. Stopped and restarted everytime no problems. Of course with no power brakes.

[Screwbolts]

I am just begining to think she made that story up. For one thing if you put your car in reverse at 100 miles an hour, you are going to destroy your transmission, and her saying she finaliy got the car to stop, that dosn't seem right either. Here's probably what happened. She had the gas pedal all the way down the floor, it didn't get stuck, and the reason why she slowed down is because she got pulled over by a cop. She was speeding.

Are you referring to the Toyota Fiasco???

If so are you aware that some of the fiasco cars are drive by wire.  There is no Key!  There is no shifting lever with linkage to the tranny!   The accelerator is simply  a spring loader pedal hooked to a resister!!    

With this new modern junk, a electrical or programing glitch can cause havoc with the computer and there isn't a *(^%$#)*&^%%$ing thing you can do.

[Sheila]

Maybe these people need to read their owners manual, they have instructions on what to to do if your suddenly speeds up. And it wasn't the accelarator, someone put a mat ontop of the mat that was already in the car, and it interfered with the gas pegal, the stupid media took it out of proportion. And have you noticed how many accidents are happening with these cars no that this  recall has been out, I think these people are wrecking these cars on purpose so they can sue Toyota. look at all the recalls from Goverment Motors in the past year.  All these people needed to was put the car into netraul, and press that button to slow the car down. No common sense.

[Oldshooter]

I have no doubt that there may some problems, however, Its very perplexing to me that the "Board of directors" of Government motors, is holding hearings on toyota operational problems. What's next Coca cola having hearings on DR Pepper?

There is no credability here, and they are not ashamed!

My smellometer is going crazy!

[scootrd]

What's next Coca cola having hearings on DR Pepper?

No one better mess with my DR. Pepper !!!!

[Oldshooter]

Well lets hope the government don't take over  Coke! cause There will be hearings on those "secret ingredients" Dr pepper has been using all these years!

[alsaqr]

And it wasn't the accelarator, someone put a mat ontop of the mat that was already in the car, and it interfered with the gas pegal, the stupid media took it out of proportion.

+1
Bingo!!!!   You sir, have won the prize.  Several times I took the rubber floor mats out of our 09 Camry.  Even after the car was recalled for floor mat interference my wife put them right back; despite the warning from the Toyota service manager.    After i threw about three sets of mats in the trash she got the message.  

The Camry does have a key and there is shift linkeage to the transmission.  I get the feeling that the lady who testified is your typical blissninnie who who never looked at her cars owner's manual.   Our 09 Camry  had the retrofit done on it yesterday.  

If the silly car "suddenly accelerates" just get on the brakes hard, shove the stick into neutral then pull over and shut the engine off.  On, silly me:  I forgot that you have to be so ambi to accomplish that one.  You can't be talking on the cell phone, doing your nails and stop a runaway car at the same time.  

Any passenger car on the road that has good brakes will stop even with the engine running full throttle:  Yeah, it takes a little longer to stop.  You can't stop in time if you're riding the bumper of the car in front of you.    

[Sheila]

Just listen to her story, when she said her car suddenly slowed down when law enforcement came, that tells you something.

[Bigeasy]

I am certainly not an electrical/mechanical engineer, so I am not going to even attempt to provide an explanation to things like cars that suddenly accelerate on their own, brakes that all of a sudden somehow refuse to work, etc..  I will say, think of all the people you have met in your life that you have turned away from, and said to yourself, "wow".  Now figure they all drive cars.  Enough said...

Larry

[Oldshooter]

I am certainly not an electrical/mechanical engineer, so I am not going to even attempt to provide an explanation to things like cars that suddenly accelerate on their own, brakes that all of a sudden somehow refuse to work, etc..  I will say, think of all the people you have met in your life that you have turned away from, and said to yourself, "wow".  Now figure they all drive cars.  Enough said...

Larry

That's very scary! but it is a valid point!   

[slim rem 7]

 i want that linkage going strait from gas pedal to carb .. if thats not the case ,,i ain t driveing it..
 im 20 th century man trying to make it in the 21 st century..slim
 after my present crises is over .. i may just take my best ,most dependable rifle with plenty of ammo,, an drop out of society..with a 62 yr old beat up body ,i may not survive .. but thats nature an life..
 i ll be taking my cues from the father then.. slim
 ps ..nobody gonna live for ever thank goodness.
 

[Sheila]

I just really begining to think she may not have been on the road at all. She just made this whole thing up.

[williamlayton]

Read the news----Toyota said they really don't know what the cause is.
It was a Lexus that was the car of malfunction.
33 deaths is the US alone related to this problem.
It was NOT a mat on top of a mat.
It is probably in the electrical system--read: computer.
The mat thing was a fix because of the inability to identify the real problem.
It is not a problem of Labor unions---it is a problem of parts supplied.
NOW--lets have coffee and talk about it.
Blessings 

[magooch]

Of course this whole thing is being blown all out of proportion, but if it makes Toyota and others a little more conscious about the products they sell and responsive to their customers--then it's a good thing.  I think Toyota had gotten a little too big for their britches and probably needed to be humbled a bit.  If they are managed well, they'll come out of this better than ever.  I hope they do, because I love my Tacoma and I'd buy another one in a minute if I could find a dealer that was reasonable to deal with.

 For any of you who might live here in the PNW, the dealer I would go to first and last would be I-5 motors in Centralia, Washington.  I don't live in that town, but they were the only dealer I found that knew how to order the truck the way I wanted it and for a price that beat any other place I looked from here to Missouri and that included a hell of a lot of Toyota stores.

[beerbelly]

I would like to see them dam Jap cars go under myself!
                      Beerbelly

[Oldshooter]

Oh that would be marvelous Beerbelly, Then there would be thousands more out of work and obama could get more work for Government motors. Did ya realize that them jap cars are made my Americans or are you still fighting the second World War? and do you believe that all the stock held my "American" motor companys is held by Americans      

[ironglow]

I am just begining to think she made that story up. For one thing if you put your car in reverse at 100 miles an hour, you are going to destroy your transmission, and her saying she finaliy got the car to stop, that dosn't seem right either. Here's probably what happened. She had the gas pedal all the way down the floor, it didn't get stuck, and the reason why she slowed down is because she got pulled over by a cop. She was speeding.

Are you referring to the Toyota Fiasco???

If so are you aware that some of the fiasco cars are drive by wire.  There is no Key!  There is no shifting lever with linkage to the tranny!   The accelerator is simply  a spring loader pedal hooked to a resister!!    

With this new modern junk, a electrical or programing glitch can cause havoc with the computer and there isn't a *(^%$#)*&^%%$ing thing you can do.

   Screwbolts;
  Your problem of "drive by wire" may be bigger than you think..most of those big rig 18 wheelers you encounter on the road are controlled the same way..as is much construction equipment.
  I even received an E-mail which accused Toyota of taking the "cheap way out"..not hardly..  Ask yourself; Is a throttle rod more expensive than a computer module ?
   Beerbelly.. You don't care if those "Jap" cars all fail ? If Toyota cars alone failed, 250,000 people here in the US would lose their job..does that bother you ? If the "big three" were again allowed a monopoly, we would soon be back to where we werte in the late 50s & early 60s..having to accept a bunch of "slap-together" junk... labelled an automobile.

  When it comes to vehicles or nearly anything else, I endorse the KISS (keep it simple, stupid) philosophy.
  If my car (Toyota Yaris) or my truck (Ford Ranger) were to suddenly accelerate, I would simply depress the clutch.

  BTW: Coca-Cola shouldn't go after Dr Pepper, it's one of their own brands...

  .

[Oldshooter]

Coca-Cola shouldn't go after Dr Pepper, it's one of their own brands...

OOps my bad analogy!........... OK  then Remington holding an hearings on the safe ty of Browning            is that safe      

[Sheila]

Do some of you want to know the real story behind this fiasco. The reason why Congress is Toyota;s case is because it is a growing succesful company, in other words capitialism, and you know congress hates capitialism.

[mirage1988]

I am just begining to think she made that story up. For one thing if you put your car in reverse at 100 miles an hour, you are going to destroy your transmission, and her saying she finaliy got the car to stop, that dosn't seem right either. Here's probably what happened. She had the gas pedal all the way down the floor, it didn't get stuck, and the reason why she slowed down is because she got pulled over by a cop. She was speeding.

Are you referring to the Toyota Fiasco???

If so are you aware that some of the fiasco cars are drive by wire.  There is no Key!  There is no shifting lever with linkage to the tranny!   The accelerator is simply  a spring loader pedal hooked to a resister!!   

With this new modern junk, a electrical or programing glitch can cause havoc with the computer and there isn't a *(^%$#)*&^%%$ing thing you can do.

   Screwbolts;
  Your problem of "drive by wire" may be bigger than you think..most of those big rig 18 wheelers you encounter on the road are controlled the same way..as is much construction equipment.
  I even received an E-mail which accused Toyota of taking the "cheap way out"..not hardly..  Ask yourself; Is a throttle rod more expensive than a computer module ?
   Beerbelly.. You don't care if those "Jap" cars all fail ? If Toyota cars alone failed, 250,000 people here in the US would lose their job..does that bother you ? If the "big three" were again allowed a monopoly, we would soon be back to where we werte in the late 50s & early 60s..having to accept a bunch of "slap-together" junk... labelled an automobile.

  When it comes to vehicles or nearly anything else, I endorse the KISS (keep it simple, stupid) philosophy.
  If my car (Toyota Yaris) or my truck (Ford Ranger) were to suddenly accelerate, I would simply depress the clutch.

  BTW: Coca-Cola shouldn't go after Dr Pepper, it's one of their own brands...

  .

Airbus uses fly-by-wire as do modern fighter planes for throttle and control surfaces, but they have redundancy (several systems to do one job) built in as a fail-safe, it doesn't sound like toyota does on their throttles.

[jcn59]

I wish people wouldn't buy those foreign cars.  They are unsafe I hear.   Plus, American workers earn lots less money making Hondas, etc, than Fords, etc., then they ship the profits off to Japan.  Do you get it yet?

There is nothing wrong with American workers earning a good living.

It was "labor's" job to build the cars, and "management's" job to earn a profit.  Labor built cars every day they went to work, management "stole" the profit in the form of a bonus.

I think our government has finally taxed business to the point that they can't show a fair profit by containing manufacturing in the USA, so they have to go overseas to escape taxes here.   The big myth that the government would like to perpetrate on us is that it's labor's fault when really it's overtaxation in conjunction with taxation without representation. 

It costs alot of money to get your congressman to vote your way these days.  Dump them all next election.  Give them just one term to straighten out THEIR mess, and if they don't, get rid of them too.

[Oldshooter]

You should call the 250,000 that make those "foreign" cars and tell em to go home , and that they aren't making a good living, so stay home and wait for government motor co. to call em to detroit to go back to work. yea thats the ticket tell em they are wasting their time and to go home! 

[alsaqr]

If the darn engine "suddenly accelerates" shove the darn shift into neutral and hit the brakes.  It ain't rocket science. 

[williamlayton]

supposedly it is rocket science as that did not work---least that is what she said.
Who knows/
Blessings

[squirrellluck]

I asked this on another thread but ain't emergency brakes mechanical now?

[ironglow]

jcn59;
  Have you talked to those who make those "foreign' cars ? Most are well pleased with their jobs. The "unsafe" charge is specious. One would have to go brand by brand, model by model to decide just which cars are "unsafe".
  Management are not the only ones who stole the profits, $4,000 of each GM car sold goes to retirement & healthcare plans for the retired UAW members. It's hard to build a competitive car with that much of a defecit to start with.
  Certainly this govt (Obama administration) are not mistreating the unions..they took OUR tax money, bought out GM & Chrysler and made them GOVERNMENT MOTORS. Then they gave much of the former stockholder's property to the UAW..that's the property OUR tax money bought!
   Consider this, Obamanites claim they want to make "green" cars..The best chance GM ev ert had of building a "green" c ar was probably the Saturn brand...but Saturn was the first one dumped. Why do you suppose that was ?
  It was because Saturn was non-union ! R. Penske wanted to buy out and build Saturn cars..but the Obamanites told him Saturn MUST be a union company. Penske told them tro stuff it ! More jobs sacrificed by a socialist administration.

   Sheila has been giving you the real reasons...

[Sheila]

supposedly it is rocket science as that did not work---least that is what she said.
Who knows/
Blessings
[/quote

It worked when law enforcement arrived. Her gas pedal did not get stuck, she was speeding. You can tell she is lying about the whole thing, and look at her when ahe is crying, she's faking it.

[Sheila]

jcn59;
  Have you talked to those who make those "foreign' cars ? Most are well pleased with their jobs. The "unsafe" charge is specious. One would have to go brand by brand, model by model to decide just which cars are "unsafe".
  Management are not the only ones who stole the profits, $4,000 of each GM car sold goes to retirement & healthcare plans for the retired UAW members. It's hard to build a competitive car with that much of a defecit to start with.
  Certainly this govt (Obama administration) are not mistreating the unions..they took OUR tax money, bought out GM & Chrysler and made them GOVERNMENT MOTORS. Then they gave much of the former stockholder's property to the UAW..that's the property OUR tax money bought!
   Consider this, Obamanites claim they want to make "green" cars..The best chance GM ev ert had of building a "green" c ar was probably the Saturn brand...but Saturn was the first one dumped. Why do you suppose that was ?
  It was because Saturn was non-union ! R. Penske wanted to buy out and build Saturn cars..but the Obamanites told him Saturn MUST be a union company. Penske told them tro stuff it ! More jobs sacrificed by a socialist administration.

   Sheila has been giving you the real reasons...

That is why he going after Toyota, this has nothing to do with steering, or gad problemss, it Obama.