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The car that wouldn't die?
« on: December 17, 2009, 01:55:29 AM »
What's the most durable and trouble free car you've ever had? I like my Ford Explorer a lot.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2009, 03:30:59 AM »
What's the most durable and trouble free car you've ever had? I like my Ford Explorer a lot.
Ford Escort wagon; I've got two of them. I paid 900 bucks for the one pictured below, have since put 70K miles on it (totaling around 180K) and it works great. It's my 37mpg SUV  ;)

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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2009, 03:41:58 AM »
That Escort is one of the most under-rated cars out there. Nice cars.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2009, 04:16:54 AM »
1989 Suburaban 4x4 - over 200k on it - Doesn't get driven but about 4-5 times a year.  It sits at my in-laws waiting patiently for us to come home on leave.  I normally leave the battery out of it.  The day before we get there my FiL charges the battery.  I put it in and the dang truck starts every time!  Been through two tranny rebuilds and a transfer case rebuild.  Put a 4-inch lift on it to replace the sagging springs.  Ripped the headliner out since it had fallen in a winter or two ago.  It's there just waiting to get muddy and bloody carrying a deer or hog on the hitch haul.  Will still pull my flat-bed or stock trailer if needed.  I used it last year to pull my FiL's newer Chevy 1500 and the flat bed up the hill in the pasture after it rained too much.  Still has less squeaks and rattles than the 2005 Suburban we drive here in Germany.


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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 04:53:18 AM »
1987 Ford Ranger.  The speedometer broke at 278,000 miles and I drove it for 2 1/2 years after that.  I sold it in 1999 and it is still running.  At the time I sold it all I ever did to the engine was replace the timing belt and a belt tensioner.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 05:26:04 AM »
The guy I work with has a Jeep Cherokee. It is from I think the early 90'S. It has almost 400,000 miles on it. It is also still on the factory engine and transmission. :o :o All he has ever done is changed the oil every 3,000 miles. Dale
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 05:31:42 AM »
for me, it was my GOLD 1982 BMW 320i (which I have never seen another for sale, not even on ebay)

I treated that little car like a rally car on those Ozark Mountain dirt roads for 3 years and all I ever did was have to replace the oil, and a rubber gasket that held the exhaust up. Heck, I even had a deer hit me and only scratched it.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 05:32:32 AM »
DalesCarpentry:

Send me a poster with that guy's picture on it. He's one of my heroes now.

My favorite story about a guy like that is my friend who is now 58 years old and still has his first car, a 1967 6 cylinder Camaro. This is his only car and it looks very used. Very very used. He keeps a bunch of parts and tools in the trunk and I've known him to replace the fuel pump on the shoulder lane of a busy interstate during rush hour. It's just an idiosyncracy with him. He always keeps his wife driving a new Volvo, and can certainly afford most any car he wants. He just doesn't want much for himself.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2009, 06:14:13 AM »
DalesCarpentry:

Send me a poster with that guy's picture on it. He's one of my heroes now.

He's my hero too if he has 4 million miles on a jeep with the original drive train.   ;D  A bit over 250,000 was the best I had heard until now.   ;D  

My most unstoppable car was a '61 Studebaker Lark.  Over 200,000 on it when I gave $75 for it.  I drove it for 4 years, through 2 full sets of tires and sold it for $100.  I know it ran for a few years after that and then I lost track.

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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 07:00:19 AM »
Right on about the Escort wagon. My parents have one with almost 200,000 on it and it runs like new.
It's still a pretty snappy little car. It'll carry 4 bags of grain and 2 bales of straw too. ;)



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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 07:25:05 AM »
 ford festiva..my get around car for years.... at 332.000 miles the speedometer broke..i drove it several years after that..
 i was good to it ..it was good to me.. couple o timing belts an a wheel bearing or two was all it ever needed.. when i sold it ,,it leaked oil .. but didn t burn any to speak of..slim
 one thing kinda funny .. the wheel nut on it were three regular thread one left hand thread ..
never figured out why they did that ..nearly turned it over trying to get it off one day >:( :) slim

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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2009, 10:18:26 AM »
i had a 1972 toyota carrolla i think it was.i bought used drove it well into 200,000 then sold it. the guy that bought it still drives it today..he swears he has not rebuilt the enging. he says he changed out wires hoses and shocks and stuff but the little engine just keeps going.

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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2009, 10:46:46 AM »
I've had two. 

1982 Honda Civic, drove it while in New Mexico.  Every other weekend we drove it to El Paso.  Set the cruse on 80 and go.  52MPG and it just kept going.  Drove it to Florida and Virginia twice during that time.  Brought it to Alaska, where the wife drove it daily to work, Year round.  Handled the snow and ice good, and did well in the extreme cold of 60 and 65 below.  Took it to Anchorage and drove it down there on the ice for another two years.  Had to replace the water pump, only thing ever replaced on that little thing.  With 250K miles sold it to an Airman on Elmendorf.  She wrecked it the first snow fall, four days later.  Slid through a stop sign, got broadsided by a 5 ton truck.  Got a call from Security Police saying I needed to remove my car from Elmendorf or it would be impounded.  Got in touch with the young Airman, she was in hospital in lower 48.   She told me she never wanted to see that car again, and she was not coming back to Alaska.  I can have the car back, no charge.  I went and picked up the wreck.  Took it to my buddies shop where we started stripping it.  A neighbor walked up and offered to buy the engine.  We tore it down for rebuild and found everything still in specs, rebuild not needed.  Even after 250K miles.  We rebuilt it anyway.  New bearings and rings, head job.  That little engine was then put in a Kitfox experimental Air Craft.  It's still flying that Airplane, and the owner loves it.

1987 F-150, two wheel drive, automatic, in line 300cid six.  Bought it used in Maryland with 100K already on it in 1989.  Drove it as a commuter from Waldorf to to DC everyday till 1994.  Drove it to Alaska, being a two wheel drive everyone said it would not do good up here.  I or the wife continued to drive it to work everyday till 2006.  The wife bought a new 1997 F-150 4X4, then commandeered my old 87 for three years because it was lower to the ground and easier to get into.  In 2006  bought a new F-350 diesel duelly, sold the ole 87 with 350K miles, to a teenager here in North Pole.  Old truck did not have a ding in the paint, or any dents, no body damage, except the front bumper.  Teenager made sure it looked like it and been in a demolution derby in six months.  Kid lost his drivers license, he and his Mom took Dad's new Chevy truck and left the state.  The only thing they left him was the old 87 Ford.  He is still driving it, I see him once or twice a week.  Last time I talked to him he was getting close to 500K, had tyo have the transmission rebuilt, but the engine is still chugging along, running just fine.         
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2009, 10:56:22 AM »
DalesCarpentry:

Send me a poster with that guy's picture on it. He's one of my heroes now.

He's my hero too if he has 4 million miles on a jeep with the original drive train.   ;D  A bit over 250,000 was the best I had heard until now.   ;D  

My most unstoppable car was a '61 Studebaker Lark.  Over 200,000 on it when I gave $75 for it.  I drove it for 4 years, through 2 full sets of tires and sold it for $100.  I know it ran for a few years after that and then I lost track.

Discovered it would float when I had it also.
That is a type oh. It should read he has almost 400,000 miles on it. I am going back to correct it now. Dale
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2009, 11:06:38 AM »
  had a plymouth horizon.   bought it for $400, drove it for years, used the HELL out of it, then when i moved i left it with my brother.   he ran that sucker for many more years, and ended up selling it for $300 many miles later.  all we ever did was change the oil and put gas in it.   

  dad told me when i was younger, if a vehicle engine or design is too good and lasts too long, the manufacturers will stop making them.  over the years i find that to be a very true statement. 

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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2009, 11:07:36 AM »
myronman3, mine said the same thing and i believe him now

he made a killing as a mechanic then went into amateur stock car racing. gave that up for kids
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2009, 02:08:55 PM »
did that plymouth have the slant 6? my brother and i shared a 64 plymouth valient slant 6 with a 4 speed on the floor. we drove that car unmercifully. the motor was bullet proof.

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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2009, 02:10:42 PM »
yellowtail3

was that the first of the 900 bucks you paid in the back...lol


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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2009, 03:27:11 PM »

 My 1980 Datsun P/U truck had 130K on it when the speedometer head went south. they wanted 75$ for a new one so I said the heck with it. it had a tach anyway so I knew pretty much how fast I was going  and never got a ticket in it. I drove it 2 years that way till I needed to make a trip to Texas in it to pick up some things for my grandmother. At that time I thought I'd better put a working speedometer in it or I'd get a ticket along the way. After that I drove it till it had another 120K on the meter and sold it when it was 10 years old to buy another truck. 5 speed with a 1397cc engine was pretty much bullet proof.

  I wish I could say the same for the Dodge I have now.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2009, 04:10:03 PM »
did that plymouth have the slant 6? my brother and i shared a 64 plymouth valient slant 6 with a 4 speed on the floor. we drove that car unmercifully. the motor was bullet proof.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2009, 04:18:27 PM »
That Escort is one of the most under-rated cars out there. Nice cars.

Amen, to that. When I was a young E-4 I re-upped for a bonus, bought a new one cash and got debt free with some $ in the bank. We were rear ended by a Caprice going 55, we were stopped. Both kids in carseats, and fine; we were fine. A little body work and the car was fine. I wish I had that little red wagon right now.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2009, 04:40:10 PM »
Was told by the service manager at the Ford dealership that the ford 300-6 was dropped from production because Ford could not make any money off it.  That engine lasted too long.  I had only replaced starters and altanators, the engine itself had never been touched from the factory.

The Fairbanks borough was having a meeting about our emissions program, just before I sole my old 87 gray F-150.  I testified about my dislike for the program, and I did not feel it was acconmplishing any thing so it needed to go away.  One of the4 board members made the statement that the reason for the program was to get the older vehicles off the road.  That the standard was too strict for any vehicle to pass after 150k miles.  I held up the emissions test for my old truck, that was only a month old, showing the truck had over 350K miles on it.    And it had passed emissions again.  The oxygen sensor had been bad for the last 12 years, but the truck passed the test standards.n  The man  had to see the test results up close, so he could verify them.  Then he saw it was a 300-6.  His statement was "Yea, that engine with fuel injection will never fail as long as you maintain it".
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2009, 05:25:58 AM »
the straight sixes are legendary.  doesnt matter if it is a ford, jeep, amc, or whatever.   it is a proven design.  grandpa said it was because they had so many main bearings compared to other vehicles.  i dont know if that was the whole story, but i do know that the straight six is about as solid an engine as ever was made.   i couldnt pay for my truck fast enough when i saw it.  it was a 300 six in a five speed 4x4 f 150 with 110,000 on it.   the body is in rough shape, but the engine and tranny are barely broken in.   ;D

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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2009, 07:57:28 AM »
My father was master mechanic, senior mechanic at Chevron Resarch.  They have a picture window with thier triumphs and unexplained.  Dad did the set up on the Honda motorcycle running off a V8 exhaust to show on a commercial just how much gas cars wasted.  Right next to a crystal clear glass AFB four barrell carberator they used to have a crankshaft from a plymoth slant six laying on a glod pillow.  Crankshaft came out of a taxi cab in service down in San Diego.  Seems they got to looking at service record and found this cab had been in daily use for over 2 million miles and never had a rebuild.  Dad and an engineer went down to take a look.  Reported back that everything else was past worn out and brought back the engine.  Dad took it apart and weighed everything, and I mean everything on analytical balances.  Three weeks later they started taking apart every cab in San Diego offering a free rebuild to the cab companies. Dad was gone through the week to San Diego over 7 months.  Net result, one and only one slant 6 plymouth somehow eliminated friction.  It takes a tool makers micrometer to find the wear on that crankshaft. 

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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2009, 09:03:56 AM »
blindhari,

My grandfather was a master machinist but by the time it occurred to me to ask he had passed. With automated manufacturing, can they not adjust the tolerances to where all would be milled to the quality of the engine you mentioned? If not, I think I wouldn't be alone in be willing to pay a little more for a car that was built to the tolerances of the taxi cab.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2009, 09:59:22 AM »
I had a long talk with the service manager at the Ford dealership several years ago. 

My Aerostar had just gone over 100K miles and everything started going wrong.  the heater blower motors front and rear both went bad.  The radiator went bad. One of the heads went on the engine.  the starter then the alternator went bad.  The CV joints went bad.  Then the transfer case went out.  To replace that was more than the van was worth.

The service manager explained the Ford had it down to a science.  Everything on the car was designed to fail at the 100K mark.  That was why Ford used vinyl strips in the radiator, experiments had indicated that the vinyl would last just past 100K then come apart.  The heads were so thin there was only three threads holding the spark plugs in.  And since one head had gone the other was ready to go.

If Ford does this I am sure the other manufacturers do it also.   The only way to make money is to sell new cars and trucks.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2009, 03:55:19 PM »
In 1953 Chevron research switched from testing lubes with a chevy six to a ford pressureised(?) oil system.  Like always they took the old engines up to factory spec and stored them in the basement.  Dad would buy an engine for the price of the metal by weight.  I learned in 1962 how to pull and replace an engine in a 53/54 chevy in less than 4 hours.  Made a good bit of money in High school doing this.  All I really had to do was disconnect test leads and drop it in.  Engines were complte except for radiator as they were run on dynamometers and cooling towers for lube tests.  I never really learned to understand internal combustion like my friends, but I was the go to guy for the best running 235 cu inch chevy engine.  This payed for a lot of my bad habits and covered the  costs for upkeep on some of the prettiest girls in school.  Once I swapped engines I still got the metal value back from the junkyards.

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« Reply #27 on: December 21, 2009, 03:28:32 AM »
i am really enjoying this thread!

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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #28 on: December 21, 2009, 03:29:02 PM »
A buddy of mine had a 1988 chevy astro van. 287k miles on the original engine. He rebuilt it and it lasted another 100k or so miles. Towed a fiberglass bass boat all over the midwest with it. Finally sold it with nearly 400k miles on it for $500 bucks and it still ran, allthough it was rough, real rough but still looked pretty good. Amazing!

I had one of these I bought new in 1998 and had it for about 100k miles. Good truck and never had a problem with it.
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Re: The car that wouldn't die?
« Reply #29 on: December 21, 2009, 10:38:56 PM »
That Escort is one of the most under-rated cars out there. Nice cars.

Amen, to that. When I was a young E-4 I re-upped for a bonus, bought a new one cash and got debt free with some $ in the bank. We were rear ended by a Caprice going 55, we were stopped. Both kids in carseats, and fine; we were fine. A little body work and the car was fine. I wish I had that little red wagon right now.

 Wow. That would have totaled most cars (both of them)...

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