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.358 wssm or idc
« on: November 23, 2009, 03:44:35 AM »
Does anyone know someone that can make me a barrel in this caliber for my handi rifle so I can use it during next years deer season?
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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 04:26:05 AM »
anyone?

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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 04:38:20 AM »
I do not know any makers of barrels other than what H&R has here:

http://www.hr1871.com/Support/accessoryProgram.asp

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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2009, 04:43:34 AM »
NEF doesn't chamber in this caliber that is why I was wanting to know if someone could make a barrel for me.
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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2009, 05:40:05 AM »
The SB2 frame won't handle the breech thrust of the short mags due to the huge case head and high pressure, I tried a 300WSM with dismal results, way too much action flex. TC nor any TC Encore barrel manufacturer offers any short mag chamberings for the Encore which is stronger than an SB2. I don't know what pressure the 358 BFG operates at, but it would have to be less than the 65kpsi of the parent cartridge to work in an H&R, BFG doesn't list the H&R in their delivery system. I moved one of your other posts on this to the Indiana forum, it's been discussed there, but I don't know if it has on an H&R platform. Most members here use site sponsor Wayne York of Oregunsmithing for rechambers and reboring projects, it will cost about $300 for a rebore/rechamber or a stub, plus the donor parts cost. Personally, I'd opt for a 357Maximum if you want to stay with the H&R platform, it's a simple hand reaming of a 357Mag barrel, cost wise it's more practical. ;) http://357maximum.com/

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http://www.matchgrademachine.com/chamberings_public.php

http://www.bfgcartridges.com/358BFG.html

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php?action=collapse;c=13;sa=expand#13
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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2009, 07:15:39 AM »
didn't they make them in 7 mag and .300 mag? I wouldn't think that this cal. would generate more presure than either one of these two.
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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2009, 08:36:31 AM »
No, the new frames required for them were never made, the Handi-Mags never got off the drawing board at H&R, were canceled in Jan 2008 prior to the SHOT show.

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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2009, 10:02:21 AM »
Guess I will have to opt for something else that wll fire this round.

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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2009, 10:04:06 AM »
Thanks for your help.
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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2009, 10:25:15 AM »
A guy who used to post here (HRAKONE?) rechambered something to a WSM, I think it might have been 30-30 to 300WSM. Within 10-20 shots, the barrel would no longer lock tightly when the action was closed.
Way too much 'bolt thrust' with that cartridge base size.

How big around is that IDC cartridge?

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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2009, 10:40:03 AM »
I dunno about anyone by that name, it's not in the member data base, but I have Handi35's old 300WSM barrel that he sold to Mac, it was a 308Win, he set the underlug back on it and sold the barrel for the cost of shipping to Mac, he sold it to me. Best I could do without flexing the internal action was 2900fps with 150gr loads, which is about 100fps slower than 30-06 velocities, the huge .555" case head is just too much for the internals of SB2 action. The .358BFG is based on the 25WSSM which has the same .555" case head.

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http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,105157.msg1098295097.html#msg1098295097

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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2009, 12:16:22 PM »
I think Handi35 could have been his name here, it was something like HRAKONE on H&R Talk.

Was he in Alaska?

My ISP must have been caching this page when I replied to it, I didn't see any replies when I posted the first time.

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Re: .358 wssm or idc
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2009, 12:21:03 PM »
Yes, he was in AK, I think he moved to Australia. You didn't see the replies because the OP posted that in several different boards here, I think the one you replied to was moved here from the Gunsmithing forum, I merged your reply with the thread that was here already!!  ;D

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