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Offline Questor

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The constitutional argument?
« on: November 09, 2009, 10:19:31 AM »
Somebody raised the point that if the health care socialism goes into law there might be a constitutional challenge made against it. What would be the point of that? Virtually everything that has happened at the federal level since Roosevelt was elected has been unconstitutional, so why bother? The bill of rights isn't worth the paper its written on because there are so many cases where the government just does what it wants to do, and gets away with it.
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Re: The constitutional argument?
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2009, 12:39:51 PM »
Those folks in DC in charge of running our government have long ago turned their backs on the Constitution and no longer consider it a valid document. Sadly the courts have done the same.

It's really up to the people to take back the government from the traitors currently in charge. It should be done via the polls but sadly that's not do able so leaves only a rebellion with arms to stop them. I don't really see that working either.

Bottom line is we're toast and only after several generations have lived in the total loss of freedom I've been posting about for years will there be any hope of turning it around and even then it will take folks of the same character as the founders of our nation to make it happen. Today we have no such men.


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Re: The constitutional argument?
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2009, 12:47:02 PM »
 well greybeard it may be undoable .. but at least we won t have to watch,, an we can hold our head up when we meet our forefathers,,in the hereafter..  you an i know we just timeing out here.. so to speak ..but the young ones can try an
 we can lend any help we still able to..jmo..anyway slim

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Re: The constitutional argument?
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2009, 01:13:04 PM »
I made the argument long ago that the health care reform concept being explored by the democrates was unconstitutional. It is unconstitutional and if it passes in it current or similar form, there wll be a supreme court battle over it. As well there should since it's in direct violation of Article 1 Section 8 and the 10th Amendment.
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Re: The constitutional argument?
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2009, 01:34:26 PM »
I don't believe there will be a supreme court battle over it. Even if there were, it would likely be ruled against the people. I'm still stunned that Kelo vs. New London was ruled as it was. I am equally stunned that the court will hear McDonald vs. Chicago after handling the almost identical case in District of Columbia vs. Heller.
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Re: The constitutional argument?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2009, 02:22:16 PM »
We have long past the point of arguing Constitutional law.
This government has shown nothing but blatant disregard for the law and the rights of the people.
The country is over run with human parasites and ruled by treasonous tyrants. Time grows near when men will have to decide
to put this rabid regime down or cower in servitude to it. The tree of Liberty needs to be watered and soon.

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