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Dumb question about housing glut
« on: November 02, 2009, 05:32:29 AM »
If we got into all this financial trouble over a housing bubble and the problems it caused for lenders who had loans with people who couldn't pay off the loans, why is there a first time home buyer program that gives $8000 to people to buy a house? Doesn't this simply encourage more of the problem?
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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 05:53:50 AM »
The housing bubble wasn't the reason for the collapse. As far as I know the banks are not loaning .

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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 06:00:09 AM »
Somebody's buying all those houses.
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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2009, 06:17:52 AM »
Somebody's buying all those houses.
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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 06:24:43 AM »
Somebody's buying all those houses.

Well if you find out who "somebody" is I wish you'd tell us because, I looked for "somebody" to buy my last investment home for two years before financing it myself, and I was selling at my cost, just to get out from under it. He's paying but it will take me 10 years to get my investment money back, a little at a time, and I ain't gettin any younger.
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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 07:20:55 AM »
I can see a big problem.
Your President and mine promised some folks they would be able to buy a home (if he were elected) then he gave the banks money and told them to loan it,
guess what they ain't loaning it.
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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 07:39:58 AM »
Clue me in on this. My understanding is that housing starts are up significantly (though we have a housing glut). This increase has been attributed to the program for first time home buyers (which often are not actually first time home buyers, but that's another story). Assuming this is true, where are they getting the money or the financing?
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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 07:59:03 AM »
Questor I believe if this were looked into further, that minorities will be the major recipients of the these first time buyer loans. I don't know this, but I suspect it. Entwa, folks like ACORN, and other "affirmative action' groups.
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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2009, 08:00:13 AM »
 
Mortgage tax credit fraud by illegal aliens? Shhhhh…
By Michelle Malkin  •  October 22, 2009 04:59 PM
Whenever I have noted illegal alien mortgage fraud over the years, I’ve been smacked with the RAAAAACIST card.
Wonder if the Inspector General for Tax Administration is going to get mau-mau-ed by the open borders lobby, too.
Shhhhhh:
The rush to implement a tax credit for first-time home buyers opened the program up to potential fraud by people who hadn’t bought a home or already owned one, Congress was told Thursday.
J. Russell George, Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, questioned the eligibility of some 100,000 claims out of the 1.5 million who have sought to take advantage of the $8,000 tax credit incorporated in the economic stimulus package enacted last February.
He said claimants include those who could possibly be illegal immigrants and that 580 people seeking $4 million from the first-time home buyer credit were under the age of 18. The youngest taxpayers receiving the credit were 4 years old, his office said.
George and an Internal Revenue Service official testifying before a House Ways and Means Committee subcommittee stressed that many of the questioned claims may eventually be found to be legitimate after further examination.
But the hearing raised a yellow flag as Congress considers whether to extend, or even expand, the popular program that is set to expire at the end of November.
The top Republican on the panel, Rep. Charles Boustany, Jr., of Louisiana, said that while the issue of extending the credit was not the purpose of the hearing, “every time Congress creates a new refundable credit … the incentive for fraud is magnified.”

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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 08:22:52 AM »
This is why I made my original post. So much doesn't pass the "sniff test". If you need 60 to 80 grand to make a down payment on a house today, doesn't that tend to limit the number of likely first time buyers? I'm missing something big here.
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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 09:01:50 AM »
I see far to many generalizations about the glut and lending.
The glut depends on the particular marketplace being discussed.
Glut is depending if you are talking new home starts of for sale by banks that are in forclosure.
Detroit is a good example. There are a number of houses and lots in non-desirable parts of Detroit that make that marketplace seem undesirable.
Houston---on the other hand---while not suffering as much has cut back on building new homes--there are not as many (yet) forclosures, there probably will be, in the future, however.
There is money to be had and not all folks are in the catagory of questionable, in regards too their credit.
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Re: Dumb question about housing glut
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 01:10:06 PM »
Another round of foreclosures is coming