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Offline MrYeats

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glass bed or free float?
« on: October 09, 2003, 01:16:17 PM »
Hi friends,
  I am building a Mauser 98 and have a nice stock from Boyds to put it in and want some feedback on whether to free float or glass bed.
   I had ER Shaw put a 25 inch .700 weight barrel on the action and am getting ready to set it to the stock which is a very nice walnut piece.
  Any ideas? :idea:
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2003, 02:58:13 PM »
Glass bedding and free floating are not exclusive terms.  Glass bedding refers to using a polyester bedding compound the provide bedding for the action(sometimes the barrel is also bedded).  Free floated simply refers to the situation where the barrel is not touching the stock inlet(except for a couple of inches just in front of the action).  I usually bed the action with the barrel not touching the inlet.  If the rifle shoots satifactorily that's where I stop.  If there's an accuracy problem I will install a temporary pressure point and recheck.  If there is an improvement I will install a permanent pressure pad for the barrel..  I've almost settled on glass bedding every rifle I build at this point as no one can bed an action as tightly as the fiberglass can...
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2003, 03:00:34 PM »
MrYeats ;  You may have to try different aproaches on the bedding issue, I have over the years have prefered the action being bedded and the barrel free floating, but thats not always the case, If it was a l;aminated piece of wood and was mine I would leave barrel floated, at present I have a mark X action in 22-250 I have just finished this spring havent done anything but open the barrel channel up and screwed down, seems as if it is going to be ok at the present set-up but it could go south on me and if it does I may be getting a boyds/ or richards laminated for it. let us know how it goes. :D    JIM

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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2003, 03:48:50 PM »
I am like a kid in a candy store, I got my stock back in June right after I sent my action off to be barreled and finished it with a satin polyurethane touch. The walnut is beautiful, non laminated and very inexpensive, I think around $60.
  ER Shaw emailed me yesterday saying they had just shipped my "new toy".
  This is the first gun that I have built. I have owned many fine guns but this is exciting. Pitiful for a 48 year old man to act like such a kid but I can't help it. Being in a forum such as this really helps in the affirmation department. The female half just doesn't get it...
  Thanks guys and keep the testosterone flowing!!!
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2003, 05:51:26 PM »
With a barrel of that weight, I think I would try a pillar bedded action and a free-floated barrel first.  A lot of folks with really light barrels (#1 contour) over at 24hourcampfire.com, have reported best results with a full-length glass-bedded barrel.  I think after deer season, I may try that with my .250AI, which has a #2 contour barrel.

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« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2003, 10:36:59 AM »
MrYeats,

Looks like gunnut and I must have went to the same school as far as rifle building goes.  I always glass the action and free bloat the barrel.  If accuracy problems show up the first thing I check is whether or not a temporary shim in the barrel channel helps.  Like gunnut said if it helps it's easy to add a pressure pad.  Man I'm older than you and just the though of building another rifle gets me going.   :D   Lawdog
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2003, 12:17:44 PM »
Well guys, I have obviously drawn from a wealth of experience here in this forum and I will use every bit of it appreciatively. I will be sure to keep you all posted as soon as I am done and shoot a few rounds.. :wink:
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« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2003, 08:36:00 PM »
Forty-eoghts not so old!!  Wish I could be 48...  Lawdog-I never got schoolen..  except for hard knocks.  Rifles are like women, no two alike!  Some like pressure some don't.  Heavy barrels seem less sensitive but don't rule pressure out if there's an accuracy problem.  I've used full length bedded barrels but more help stabilize poor wood in the forearm of a rifle..  Full length bedded straight taper barrels are not a good thing.. The heat expansion causes impacts to wonder.  The worst I ever worked on was an old 788 Remington in 243.  Great shooting rifle but it shot those little bitty groups somewhere else on the target each week.  At the time I had precious little money and was trying my best to push the groundhog to extinction(know better now, they stay I get more shooting next year). After hollowing out the forearm I full length bedded the barrel and embedded aluminum rods(welding rods) in the bedding to provide stiffening against warpage.  That stock was made of sycamore which squirms like a snake hen it gets wet and I never had any more zero wondering problems.  Of course that was the rifle I finished with epoxy glue also.. Now that made for some sticky problems..  A note-Aluminum arrows weren't even in the stores when I worked over the 788..  I was shooting the latest at the time, fiberglass arrows..from a recurve..  all state of the art, then..  Good luck with the project MrYeats, I pray you never lose the thrill, I cartainly haven't.
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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2003, 11:19:17 PM »
I just built a mauser98 and i went free floating because it is more acurate a farther distances :D
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« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2003, 07:58:04 AM »
Welcome Guntech.  

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