Author Topic: shoot down Israeli jets. (Read 7788 times)

powderman · « **Reply #120 on:** September 30, 2009, 03:34:24 AM »

BEERBELLY. Compare the size of Israel to ALL of those Godless nations put together, Israel is 1/ 500 th the size of her Godless neighbors. Look at all the times they have attacked Israel and lost every time. That should tell you something. Israel WILL win. The difference is God is with them. The Godless ones are just that, Godless. Any time God and satan collide, God wins. POWDERMAN.

bearmgc · « **Reply #121 on:** September 30, 2009, 03:58:39 AM »

Israel will not let Iran go that far, to develope a nuclear warhead. Israel recently warned that they will take action before this happens, and appealed to the rest of the UN to act before they will HAVE to. This will happen soon, and no US fighter pilot will try to shoot any Israeli jet down. They will either stand down or assist, despite orders if given to the contrary. There is a turning point among American individuals, who will not be fooled with any more. This is history in the making. The Israelis will act soon, after the Obama's avoidance at the UN, of mentioning knowledge of, and outrage over Iran's second and covert nuclear facility. This was a slap in Israel's face, and France's president was angry, and acutely aware of the implications of Obama's egotistical preference for stage time over discussion of the emminant threat of Iran's nuclear buildup.

bearmgc · « **Reply #122 on:** September 30, 2009, 04:01:15 AM »

Expect an interesting holiday season...

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #123 on:** September 30, 2009, 04:20:18 AM »

Back to org. ?
Shoot um down ? Hell fill um up with fuel , wash the windshield and check the air in the tires for them ! And wish the well on their trip !

jimster · « **Reply #124 on:** September 30, 2009, 04:57:52 AM »

I know lots will say there were no weapons found in Iraq

Actually 550 tons of yellow cake was there...the whole time, and has been transported to Canada as they bought the stuff for their nuke plants.

But...due to the media constantly reminding the world of NO WMD...ever, anywhere...it was not a good idea to make this 550 tons of yellow cake an example of WMD...nor scuds, nor poison gas...I don't think they would have classified anything WMD to make their point.

Actually...in my opinion we should not have went there...but they had plenty of WMD there...including scud missles which were also outlawed by the amazing UNITED NATIONS. So if people are thinking the only reason we should have went there is because of WMD...it all panned out for them just fine after all.
As for me...WMD was not a good enough reason to put boots on the ground...they always had WMD of some kind there. Don't you love politics....for many years down the road they will be saying there was never WMD there no matter what. What you want to bet that 550 tons of crap came from Africa to boot? LOL!!

Casull · « **Reply #125 on:** September 30, 2009, 05:58:59 AM »

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We have never stopped anyone from getting the bomb.

Sure as hell stopped Saddam from getting it.

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #126 on:** September 30, 2009, 06:35:01 AM »

FourBee:

No sir have read that , however, I do understand what is coming there. As to your question "Will Israel attack Iran?" the answer is a definate YES THEY WILL! If the US and UN will not stop them they have no choice. Given the recent history as well as the old history of the effectiveness of the UN they will have to go it alone more than likely.

BeerBelly : You need not doubt that we the U.S could stop it no question about. Yet, sadly no one icluding Americans believes we will. Why? Obama has projected his weakness, now that might just work the other way as he becomes desperate in the months ahead. The Democrats and Obama will have to do something as his and their poll numbers fall to the floor. You know help out Israel of course let them carry the load and then claim the "STRONG OBAMA TOOK ACTION TO DEFEND ISRAEL and stop Iran from getting the bomb.

He is in a deep sided box ...Leave Afganistan and LOSE TO THE TERRORIST and become the first President to be a COWARD or Stay and fight and still LOSE!

What an idiot and what a shame.

FourBee · « **Reply #127 on:** September 30, 2009, 07:36:52 AM »

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jimster: Actually...in my opinion we should not have went there...

Your post said a lot. Why the U.S. denied Iraq having any WMD is beyond me. I also felt we should have stayed out of Iraq, but for one thing. I later learned that our presence there created a window for the people to respond to the gospel, and untold numbers of Christians were able to escape. Some weren't so fortunate, and muslims made examples of them by crucifying them on crosses.

jimster · « **Reply #128 on:** September 30, 2009, 09:56:46 AM »

Your point is well talken FourBee, and there was indeed a lot of people getting tortured there as well, but if we went everywhere in the world to save everyone we would be in a lot of places for sure. We pick and choose do we? Africa could use some help too I guess. When we goin?

I also can't understand why the entire media and the U.S. denied WMD there. As of now there are millions of people here that act very surprised when I tell them Iraq had 550 tons of yellow cake, but neither that, nor the barrels of crap they found, nor the hundreds of scuds, were any sort of WMD...cause they said so I guess. WMD is whatever they say it is or isn't, all for political purposes. They still to this day keep saying there was no WMD there. I just chuckle at how millions of American people do not take the time to look underneath all this and just eat what they are fed from the media.

I need help figuring it all out I guess cause I'm just an older guy who doesn't know squat...bad war, good war, bad WMD, good WMD, bad political party, good political party, someone needs to explain it all to me, use big words, give a history lesson, and help the ignorant fool that I am get on the right path I guess.

Jim

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #129 on:** September 30, 2009, 10:05:34 AM »

We go where we can make a profit or protect a profit we are making .
Our biggest mistake is believing others want what we have and want to be like us .
Israel figured out long ago others near her want her dead and she has acted to keep that from becoming a fact . We will one day also , but the cost will be more than than now . The world is getting smaller and closer . Distance is no longer on our side .

FourBee · « **Reply #130 on:** September 30, 2009, 10:26:15 AM »

Quote from: bearmgc on September 30, 2009, 04:01:15 AM

Expect an interesting holiday season...

I hear tell that the muslims like to attack Israel on their most holy days. Are you saying "hang on America, we may be in for it."?

powderman · « **Reply #131 on:** September 30, 2009, 02:35:36 PM »

No WMD in iraq??? When did the United States deny they were there??? I mean besides the current dumcraps. After we first went in even the dumcraps said they were there. Satelite pics showed long caravans of trucks going into syria prior to our invasion. It was widely believed that saddam sent them there. I believe they are there and syria fears reprisals if they admit they helped that butcher. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #132 on:** September 30, 2009, 02:54:42 PM »

Powderman is correct; I bought & read this book, written by Saddam's Chief Air Marshall a couple years ago. In it he explained how while our troops were coming into Iraq from Kuwait and Turkey held us up for a couple weeks, Saddam gutted the airplanes of his civilian airliners to haul out WMD..to Syria. At the same time satellites were seeing convoys of everything from sheet metal to watermelons..all with WMD underneath..also heading to Syria, just as with the first Gulf war he flew his war planes to Iran.
There are 103 reviews..read them...

http://www.amazon.com/Saddams-Secrets-Georges-Hormuz-Sada/dp/1591454042

FourBee · « **Reply #133 on:** September 30, 2009, 05:09:16 PM »

Quote from: ironglow on September 30, 2009, 02:54:42 PM

Powderman is correct; I bought & read this book, written by Saddam's Chief Air Marshall a couple years ago. In it he explained how while our troops were coming into Iraq from Kuwait and Turkey held us up for a couple weeks, Saddam gutted the airplanes of his civilian airliners to haul out WMD..to Syria. At the same time satellites were seeing convoys of everything from sheet metal to watermelons..all with WMD underneath..also heading to Syria, just as with the first Gulf war he flew his war planes to Iran.
There are 103 reviews..read them...

http://www.amazon.com/Saddams-Secrets-Georges-Hormuz-Sada/dp/1591454042

Ironglow; you're right on top of a hot subject. The book of Zechariah describes a flying roll ( or a tube ) with stork like wings, an ephah (a precise measure container) a woman (two Hebrew words here are spelled exactly the same except for a small jot or title (the word woman and the word fire) . The word should say "FIRE"...) A lid (seal) made of lead. The fire is called 'wickedness' (fiendish, hellish destruction). Sounds like a nuclear warhead to me.

verses #10 and #11 says it will be stored in a house (silo)in Syria. Is it possible that satelites have revealed a warhead to be stored in Damascus, Syria? Could this tie in with the book of Amos' prophesy as to why Damascus is destroyed by fire as God roars out of Zion (Jerusalem)?

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #134 on:** September 30, 2009, 05:24:29 PM »

I believe they were there and moved to Syria I base this on the book you referrred to by the Air Chief of Iraq. Only time will reaveal this to be absolutely true or false. I believe that history will be much kinder to the memory of the Bush Presidency than any are willing to be now. As a matter of fact I believe we will be thankful he attacked Iraq when all is out in the open.

I believe in the stories of the Bible and that the END will start there and I feel sooner rather than later.

powderman · « **Reply #135 on:** October 01, 2009, 02:53:58 AM »

Well, glad to see that some of us get it. And yes, I'm thankful that president Bush attacked this cancer that has enveloped the world, islam. I would not be surprised if many of those weapons have since left syria and have been hidden at strategic locations around the world to be used against non muslims. Islam is a fast growing cancer, a boil on the butt of the entire world, and should be treated as such. POWDERMAN.

ironglow · « **Reply #136 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:07:04 AM »

Powderman;
In your above post, either it is a typo by you or a failure to understand on my part...where you said the WMD are stored, ready troi be used on NON Christians...I suspect they have Christians in the crosshairs. Perhaps you meant to bve used on non christians..after the Christians depart.

powderman · « **Reply #137 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:26:22 AM »

IG. HEH, glad you caught that. I meant to say non MUSLIMS, which of course is the rest of the entire world. POWDERMAN.

FourBee · « **Reply #138 on:** October 01, 2009, 03:33:16 AM »

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by: ironglow Perhaps you meant to bve used on non christians..after the Christians depart.

Like the old gospel song says - - -"I'm gettin ready to leave this world !"

jimster · « **Reply #139 on:** October 01, 2009, 06:59:43 AM »

Whatever happened to just bombing them, bombing the threat, blowing up the threat? Seems to me we needed boots on the ground to change them into
"democrats or republicans"....I can't really agree with this.

We can take out threats without many boots on the ground, that is what the air is for. When Israel takes out the threat in Iran, I doubt they will try to turn the people into Israelis. There is a big difference in taking out a threat, and putting our solders there to "police" them, or to give them our kind of government. Lately, I would not wish our kind of government on any country.

Fazak · « **Reply #140 on:** October 01, 2009, 07:00:55 AM »

Quote from: FourBee on September 30, 2009, 05:09:16 PM

Quote from: ironglow on September 30, 2009, 02:54:42 PM
Powderman is correct; I bought & read this book, written by Saddam's Chief Air Marshall a couple years ago. In it he explained how while our troops were coming into Iraq from Kuwait and Turkey held us up for a couple weeks, Saddam gutted the airplanes of his civilian airliners to haul out WMD..to Syria. At the same time satellites were seeing convoys of everything from sheet metal to watermelons..all with WMD underneath..also heading to Syria, just as with the first Gulf war he flew his war planes to Iran.
There are 103 reviews..read them...

http://www.amazon.com/Saddams-Secrets-Georges-Hormuz-Sada/dp/1591454042

Ironglow; you're right on top of a hot subject. The book of Zechariah describes a flying roll ( or a tube ) with stork like wings, an ephah (a precise measure container) a woman (two Hebrew words here are spelled exactly the same except for a small jot or title (the word woman and the word fire) . The word should say "FIRE"...) A lid (seal) made of lead. The fire is called 'wickedness' (fiendish, hellish destruction). Sounds like a nuclear warhead to me.

verses #10 and #11 says it will be stored in a house (silo)in Syria. Is it possible that satelites have revealed a warhead to be stored in Damascus, Syria? Could this tie in with the book of Amos' prophesy as to why Damascus is destroyed by fire as God roars out of Zion (Jerusalem)?

who-eee

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Casull · « **Reply #141 on:** October 03, 2009, 07:42:34 AM »

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IG...there is absolutely no way in this world that any WMD would be allowed to be moved closer to Israel or bordering countries, at any time....that much we know for certain. Simply no way...the neocons-war party would have taken that opportunity to broaden the war at that time if they thought they could have gotten away with it. Simply no way.

FourBee · « **Reply #142 on:** October 03, 2009, 09:20:27 AM »

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Simply no way.

Simply no way. Simply no way. Simply no way.

WWHHOOOMM !

FourBee · « **Reply #143 on:** October 03, 2009, 02:03:59 PM »

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simply no way that would be allowed.

I know what your saying TM, but bibical prophesy has stood the test of proof time and again. So if it says this terrible curse will have its base in Syria, you can be sure its a fact.
Zech. 5: 9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women ( fires}, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?
11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar (Syria): and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

ironglow · « **Reply #144 on:** October 03, 2009, 02:49:25 PM »

That's right, you got it by crackie!...simply no way that would be allowed. Here we have an extremist fanatical nation ready to nuke Iran, wiping out civilains and children daily over carnival rockets, and they would pull punches during a war they duped Uncle Sap into and not destroy WMD moving closer to their prize stronghold......never, never, NEVER. Simply wouldn't be allowed....If they didn't do the killing themselves, they'd get Uncle Sap to do it for them. It just is that simple....don't forget it..

The USA is run on an 'isarel first' basis...and an america 2nd, 3rd, or 4th basis; even the modern day national religion of America is currently setup/organized on this 'basis'. Qui bono...?

..TM7
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C'mon TM;
You're cracking me up with just that first sentence "extremist, fanatical nation threatening to nuke Iran"...Hmm, I thought it was Iran that wanted to "wipe Israel off the map". What Isreal said was not a "threat"...it sounded more like a promise..if the UN or western powers keep sitting upon their hands..or chasing after "important things"..like Olympic games..rather than reigning in the servant of the 12th mahdi.
Of course, when Isrealis retaliate for a few thousand rockets landing on their country it is "terrorism by a fanatical, extremist country".
And all that, simply because the Muslims fired a few thousand "carnival rockets" harmlessly in the air..

powderman · « **Reply #145 on:** October 03, 2009, 03:07:51 PM »

FOURBEE. You and I and tm don't have the same Bible, ours is Christian, his isn't, not allowed in his country. POWDERMAN.

FourBee · « **Reply #146 on:** October 03, 2009, 04:29:09 PM »

Powderman;
After much typing and back-spacing, this is the sum of what I was trying to get at ~ (as Nicodemus, a very intelligent man, a man of respect, sought to reason with Jesus through his natural abilities, Jesus, simply answered him in all compassion: "Ye must be born again".)

powderman · « **Reply #147 on:** October 04, 2009, 04:25:32 AM »

tm. Iran has a military base in Israel??? Now I know you are lying. POWDERMAN.

FourBee · « **Reply #148 on:** October 04, 2009, 10:32:10 AM »

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IG, Fourbee (and the peanut gallery)...as for your prophesies, cultic as they are, you have to remember one thing. And that is the zionist marxist machine running colonial isarel don't share your beliefs.

TM7: That is an erroneous statement for you to say 'your prophesies'

. I only pointed them out to you for your good

. No one has to believe them what-so-ever. That is their God given choice. But whether man ignores them or not will have absolutely no effect on the outcome of God's prophesies. It's worth thinking about, I assure you.

SM Bob · « **Reply #149 on:** October 04, 2009, 04:52:13 PM »

TM 7 Wrote:
"... but my policy is to hold the powers accountable for their actions...not give passes."

That's funny. Why don't you try giving equal time for the Muslims? From what I've seen you
are always blaming Israel for everything and you rarely if ever at all say anything about
your buddies who want everyone in Israel dead. If Goebbels were alive he would congratulate
you on all the anti Semitic propaganda you put out, and if Hitler were alive he would be high
fiving you. I doubt if you are aware of it, but this uncontrolled hatred that you display for
Israel and a lot of her citizens is consuming you. This hatred you have is making you, a fairly
well read, obviously educated fellow, come across as a fool. I hope for your sake you will get
over this hatred some day. Going through life with a chip on your shoulder like that will only
make you miserable and bitter.

Robert