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Hodgdon Universal in the Venerable 45-70 Gov't
« on: August 29, 2009, 06:07:32 PM »
Well, I finally got my 45-70 barrel (it's in the mail anyways) so I stopped by my local Cabelas today to pick up some reloading supplies among other things.  I've now got W-W cases, 300 gr Hornady HP's, and RCBS dies.  I didn't pick up any powder though in an effort to keep the total to a minimum (my wife was with).  I've got a few powders on hand from the 45 Colt and 308 WIN.  It looks like my IMR 3031 is going to work pretty well, I've got a bunch of BL-C(2) which appears to be a bit too slow, and I've got some Univeral Clays.  I've seen a bunch of data for Unique in the 45-70 and Universal is very similar in all aspects.  So, what is the consensus of using Univeral in the 45-70? 
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Re: Hodgdon Universal in the Venerable 45-70 Gov't
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 09:36:42 AM »
I can't find any load Data on Universal for the 45-70. Being a Pistol Powder I would presume it was useful for Cast bullets only if at all, similar to Unique.
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Re: Hodgdon Universal in the Venerable 45-70 Gov't
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 09:50:11 AM »
There is Universal powder, there is Clays, and Universal Clays.

To which is your reference ?
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Re: Hodgdon Universal in the Venerable 45-70 Gov't
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 10:05:42 AM »
My main concern is that he is thinking to use jacketed bullets with these types of powder.
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Re: Hodgdon Universal in the Venerable 45-70 Gov't
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 03:27:38 PM »
 What I know about the Universal Powder
 it would NOT be good for 45-70.
 I am using IMR 4198 in my 45-70
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Re: Hodgdon Universal in the Venerable 45-70 Gov't
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 03:38:25 PM »
i use 3031 in mine i love it but then again im not using full house loads either
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Re: Hodgdon Universal in the Venerable 45-70 Gov't
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 04:48:31 PM »
Quote from: Lefty Dude on August 30, 2009, 09:50:11 AM
There is Universal powder, there is Clays, and Universal Clays.

To which is your reference ?

You are incorrect.  There is Clays, International Clays, and Universal Clays; they all go by their prefix.  Check data.hodgdon.com. 

I've got IMR 3031 for regular shooting with jacketed bullets, that part is covered.  But I was thinking about letting my 10 y/o neighbor hunt with it this fall and wanted a "cowboy" load for it so it didn't tear his skinny little arm off.  I've seen plenty of loads out there using ~12 gr Unique in the 45-70 using cast boolets.  Univeral is almost identical to Unique, but not a direct substitute. 

I'm just looking to see if anyone has tried it. 
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Re: Hodgdon Universal in the Venerable 45-70 Gov't
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2009, 06:16:05 AM »
I don't have any of those powders,however I can recommend for low recoil loads IMR 4198 for jacketed bullets, 2400 or Blue Dot for Cast bullets.
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Re: Hodgdon Universal in the Venerable 45-70 Gov't
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2009, 11:21:30 AM »
I use IMR 3031, & RL-7 in the .45-70 & really like them.
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