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Would you be interested in purchasing a lever action rifle chambered in any of the following calibers? 223 Rem, 243Win, 308Win, 30/06, 270Win, 300 Win Mag, 454 Casull.

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Offline DCmauser

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #90 on: October 13, 2009, 12:03:25 PM »
An all new lever platform?

How about 1) starting with Win 1895, improving ejection angle such as side eject, improving bolt flexing perhaps with front-locking lugs such as lever actuated Ross straight pull bolt, and short action cartridges of 308 family, inculding lower recoil ones, as well as 338's, 348's 358's, etc..

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #91 on: October 13, 2009, 12:31:27 PM »
I prefer if it would have an exposed hammer and without a tang safety.

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #92 on: October 13, 2009, 01:29:48 PM »
I'd like to have a 336 Marlin in .454 or .500S&W.
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #93 on: October 13, 2009, 02:49:08 PM »
Why a 336 instead of an 1895?
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #94 on: October 13, 2009, 02:51:37 PM »
The 1895 seems heavier to me.
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #95 on: October 14, 2009, 03:21:51 PM »
I own Marlins in the 30-30, 35 cal., the 444 cal and the 45/70 caliber. I really would like to have a .270 Winchester in a Marlin lever rifle but won't hold my breath.  ;D

A lightweight lever gun that can tag a big mulie far down range with a 130 or 140 grn bullet, shooting a very flat trajectory, now that would make a real great lever gun. 8)

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #96 on: October 15, 2009, 05:29:12 AM »
Tonk,

I hear ya on the .270. But....I'd rather a 6.5 Swede be offered. Good down range energy and mild recoil. It be great if Hornady would offer their gummy tip bullets in all rifle calibers.

As far as the cross bolt safety is concerned, I guess I'm in the minority. I like that feature. Yeah, like anything else, if you know what your doin with the older models the cross bolt safety isn't necessary. However, I just plain like the idea of that additional button when I'm teachin a younger one how to shoot.

Maybe it's just me.


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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2009, 09:14:18 AM »
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2009, 10:16:06 AM »
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2009, 01:25:10 PM »
Has the idea of the 458 lott been shot down already???

Seems every time the "is a 4570 enough for africa" argument breaks out the 458 lott is mentioned as being the better choice.  So why not make a "Pro guide gun" in the 458.  The gun all the professional guides in africa carry when they need to stop YOUR charging elephant.  ;D

I don't think I've ever even seen 458 lott ammo, but I'd buy this gun because I know I can get the ammo.  Just thinking out loud

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #100 on: October 15, 2009, 02:23:42 PM »
I don't think I've ever even seen 458 lott ammo, but I'd buy this gun because I know I can get the ammo.  Just thinking out loud

I'd reload it and shoot it.....just 'cause it would be cool!!!  ;D  I'd even try to hit crows if they were on the ground.....with a proper hill behind 'em!

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #101 on: October 15, 2009, 03:16:24 PM »
You could take down big crows with that.  Big, big crows!!
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #102 on: October 15, 2009, 05:55:36 PM »
You could take down big crows with that.  Big, big crows!!

Yep! biguns! maybe even big 747's ................if they was on the ground!  ;D
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2009, 08:09:31 PM »
for those who would like a .270 win. 

how about marlin commercializing the .270 redding ???
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #104 on: October 15, 2009, 10:52:21 PM »
The Marlin actions now available are not suited to such rounds as the 30-06, 300 WSM, 308 Win., ect.  That is why you see such rounds as the 308 & 338 Marlins.  Winchester tried it before in the model 94 with the 307 Winchester in an effort to duplicate the tried and true 308 Win.  In the long run it did not work, as is the case with most propriatery cartridges.  It's hard to compete with established rounds.

If Marlin wants to go for high intensity modern rounds in a lever action, a new action is in order.  The trick for Marlin is to come up with something that appeals with it's tradional customer base, while exciting those who like the lines and handeling of a lever action, but have been put off by the cardridge selection.  These are the guys who flock to the Browning BLR, and buy a ton of em' in the traditional high power bottle neck calibers.

Me, I own both Marlins (44 mag & 45/70), as well as several BLR's, and they are totally different guns.  I will be curious to see what Marlin comes up with.  I would say they would be smart to stay with steel and walnut, and stay away from the weird styling we are starting to see on some new Browning models, for example.  Maybe an updated, trimmer version of the Winchester 88?  A more traditional tube fed gun with a spiral tube to prevent bullet tip to primer contact, so modern spitzers could be used?  Does not have to be a front locker, could be a rear locker like the Winchester 86/71, only with modern steels to make it strong and reduce bulk?  Lots of posibilities....:)

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #105 on: October 16, 2009, 04:23:21 PM »
I think that bringing back some of the old big bores like the 50-95 would
be a good move. Probably start a whole new game of cowboy action shooting.
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #106 on: October 18, 2009, 05:36:30 AM »
If Marlin makes a modern equivalent of the Savage 99, then that is a good thing.

Does anyone 'IN THE KNOW' have an ETA on when this is expected to make its first appearance?


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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #107 on: October 19, 2009, 09:47:17 AM »
I know this will be a bit off topic so please be gentle on me for this!!

I saw this poll and i asked myself which i would like to own nothing on this list jumped out to me mainly because none of these calibers were made for a lever action!!!

I do not believe any of these would be successful as a levergun! mainly due to the fact that they don't do well in a carbine type rifle.

I know almost every manufacturer makes shorter lightweight guns in these and they sell alright. example NEF superlight,Ruger mountain rifles,ect. They are a compromise at best!

I have tried a few of these carbine style rifle with little enthusiasm! the most successful IMO is the Remington pump rifles which are just too brutal in 30.06 i can't imagine what anything bigger would be like.

Being a lefty i'm naturally drawn to levers,pumps,and singles due to the fact that left bolts are not as plentiful especially on the used racks!That being said IMO 30-30 is the perfect levergun round,pumps are better left for shotguns,that leaves singles which for me is NEF (TC is way overpriced) which most will agree work best with rimmed cartridges.

I warned you this would be off topic but to get back on topic. Most of these options are best suited for bolt action rifles and if someone wanted that particular caliber they would get a boltgun.

Marlin should stick to what they know and work on making that the best levergun at the best price possible before trying to build a gun for a niche market that will get lack lustre reviews on the general market.

The only one i see that has a chance is the 454 which probably will never see the light of day due to the fact they already make the 44 mag.

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #108 on: October 20, 2009, 01:21:19 PM »
I have done some thinking.

I want a 50-70 in a new lever.

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #109 on: October 20, 2009, 01:30:14 PM »
I know this will be a bit off topic so please be gentle on me for this!!

I saw this poll and i asked myself which i would like to own nothing on this list jumped out to me mainly because none of these calibers were made for a lever action!!!

I do not believe any of these would be successful as a levergun! mainly due to the fact that they don't do well in a carbine type rifle.

I know almost every manufacturer makes shorter lightweight guns in these and they sell alright. example NEF superlight,Ruger mountain rifles,ect. They are a compromise at best!

I have tried a few of these carbine style rifle with little enthusiasm! the most successful IMO is the Remington pump rifles which are just too brutal in 30.06 i can't imagine what anything bigger would be like.

Being a lefty i'm naturally drawn to levers,pumps,and singles due to the fact that left bolts are not as plentiful especially on the used racks!That being said IMO 30-30 is the perfect levergun round,pumps are better left for shotguns,that leaves singles which for me is NEF (TC is way overpriced) which most will agree work best with rimmed cartridges.

I warned you this would be off topic but to get back on topic. Most of these options are best suited for bolt action rifles and if someone wanted that particular caliber they would get a boltgun.

Marlin should stick to what they know and work on making that the best levergun at the best price possible before trying to build a gun for a niche market that will get lack lustre reviews on the general market.

The only one i see that has a chance is the 454 which probably will never see the light of day due to the fact they already make the 44 mag.


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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #110 on: October 20, 2009, 11:20:19 PM »
I want more small cartridges...

.25-20
.32-20
.357 Max
.22 Hornet
.327 Federal
.40S&W
9mm
.45 ACP


I guess I'm looking for "fun" guns that don't kick much and don't burn too much powder.
I'd REALLY like a rotary or box magazine, or maybe a regen'd spiral tube mag so we could use real spitzers, not just the leverlution stuff.  Just don't kill the lines of the gun too much.


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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #111 on: October 21, 2009, 09:40:08 AM »
Over the years I've owned 336C's in .30-30 and .35, 1895 in .45/70, a .444 and an 1894 in .44 mag.

I think an 1894 in .454 would be neat as open sighted carbine or perhaps in a scout rifle mode.

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #112 on: October 23, 2009, 01:51:47 AM »
I would spend money on a 454.
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #113 on: October 23, 2009, 02:03:01 AM »
30-06 all the way.

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #114 on: October 27, 2009, 12:43:31 PM »
For all the .454 fans, Puma already has it and Buds was recently selling them for $354 https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/86328 Evidently the 92 action is strong enough. I would think the 1895 is strong enough for that and maybe even a 460sw.

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #115 on: November 19, 2009, 02:50:23 PM »
How about a 7.62x39?  Sort of a .30-30 rimless short.   Maybe a Savage 99 type of action.
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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #116 on: November 20, 2009, 04:37:45 AM »
I have the 300WinMag and the 308 in BLR's. A .243 would be nice to have as well.

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #117 on: November 21, 2009, 02:57:37 PM »
I'd take a 30-06 but would really love to have a lever gun in 500 S&W.

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #118 on: November 23, 2009, 12:41:14 PM »
308  ;D

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Re: Poll: Lever Action Chamberings??
« Reply #119 on: November 23, 2009, 01:28:52 PM »
I'd take a 30-06 but would really love to have a lever gun in 500 S&W.

I sent Henry a fairly detailed email a couple of years ago about having 500 S&W lever action and got a response from their CEO. He said that they were going to take a look at the idea once they got the production of their .30-30s underway.