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Offline SHOOTALL

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20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« on: August 08, 2009, 02:56:04 AM »
Ok , rifled tubes for 12 ga. guns are easy to come by . Not so for the 20 ga. , 28 ga.or really any other ga. but 12 ga. . Two guns i would like a tube for is a 20 ga. or a 28 ga . An idea for a 20 ga. would be to take a rifled bbl. and cut and thread it int tube length sections . We have a local gunsmith that makes tubes ( I have not approched him yet ) the inside dia of both bbl and bbl that the tubes come from would need to work/match . The 28 would be more difficult as i don't know of a riffled bbl. so if possible a rifled blank would need to be found .
 WHY ? Well for years now i have had a rifle sighted smooth bore bbl. that i had threaded for rem chokes and use  mod,XXf and rifled tubes for turkey and deer . The mod shoots foster slugs well , the XXF shoots 000 buck well and #4 turkey loads while the rifled tube shoots sabots well out to 100 or so yards . I could add a tube for small game if needed . This is the gun and combo of tubes that rides in my work truck incase i get a chance to hunt after work , during work or need a gun for soical events .If one added a bbl for sporting clays it would make a nice travel gun and raise little concern .
Any ideas wher 20 ga. or 28 ga. rifled tubes can be found to fit a browning O/U ? or other guns
thanks for any ideas .
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2009, 04:53:41 AM »
Never seen any for 28 or .410, but 20 ga rifled tubes are available.

Cabela's did carry some, haven't checked lately.  Carlson's makes them for various brands of guns (choketubes.com).  Brownell's lists a few also.

I have a few Carlson's smooth choke tubes and they are nice quality and good people to deal with.  I bought a pair of their tubes from a retailer while on a trip, when I got home I found they were the wrong ones (totally my fault) - called Carlson's and they exchanged them N/C, just a few dollars shipping.
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2009, 04:56:30 AM »
thanks , i will check them out , I had seen rem chokes years ago but none lately even at Cabelas ( 2 weeks ago , will check online )
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2009, 11:26:39 AM »
Shootall,
   It's most unlikely that you will find a rifled 28ga barrel unless it is fully custom.  I know a gunsmith that can stub most any shotgun barrel using a H&R shotgun as the base.  You would need to first find a barreled blank that is rifled for the proper bore diameter, most likely somewhere in the .550" range. What ammo would you shoot out of a rifled 28ga shotgun?  Sabot slugs?  I'm interested to see what info you have, I also would like to someday have a 28ga slug gun.  Stars and Stripes Ammunition loads 28gs slugs. I will have some sort of reply in regards to what they load for .28ga slugs after the 15th. Right now, I'm betting it will only be round ball ammo though.

Thanks, Dinny
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 03:50:04 AM »
I was thinking that  plastic shot cup could be found that would fit a custom slug . One may exist not sure . The shot cup wad may have to be trimmed to length . There are also shot sleeves that may could be adapted . Maybe a roll crimp with a card over the homade sabot with a roll crimp .
 I was thinking more on the lines of a tube added to an existing gun , say a browning O/U or Rem. 870 . If you have never hunted in Va. it might seem strange but we hunt in counties that are side by side that have laws that are crazy ( set by the county not game dept ) . As example one county is buckshot - no slug no rifle , some are all three some are slug and buckshot . Then deer and turkey seasons overlap .
I have an 870 set up just this way and was trying to expand it to lighter gauges to see if it would work as well . The one funny thing with the 12 ga. the short rem rifled tube shoots a tighter group than the extended one .
Making a rifled bbl for the 28 is interesting also .
It only seems logical that with the slug market getting bigger each year that a factory will produce one in the near future . A 28 ga. 870 with rifled bbl or tube would make a fine deer gun i believe . And a pleasure to tote .
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2009, 10:37:59 AM »
Ordered the Carlson tube and will get the RF bbl tapped tomorrow . 20 ga.
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2009, 08:01:41 PM »
I thought 28 ga. was 50 cal.  why wont a ML 50 cal. sabot and bullet work. if fact just shoot the ML
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 05:25:36 AM »
looking for a quick 2nd , 3rd or more shots ( we can take 2 deer a day .)
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2009, 06:21:08 AM »
28 ga is .54 cal Black powder.  So getting a 54 black powder barrel and using it may work.  But use low pressure loads.  the barrel was made for Black powder after all.
32Ga is .50 cal.
and if you want a .410 go get a .41 mag barrel and make it into an H&R. 
But I am not sure anything under 20 ga is legal to hunt Deer.
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 06:24:51 AM »
Why not look at the 12 ga reduced recoil tactical slugs and buck?
If they are designed to take down druged up combatants for police and military i don't think Bambi loaded with adreniline from your first deer being shot will be much of a challange for the rounds.
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2009, 07:18:57 AM »
The 20 i have now , the 28 would be an even smaller package to tote . It would be faster to target and swing .

 I don't care about the kick really its toting the thing all day ! If your slug/bullet is 50-45 cal. why not down size the launcher and make it more portable ?
 I like the tube because i can change to buck shot/bird shot easy while in the field .
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2009, 07:42:46 AM »
If you want a small package.
easy to carry and light look at the Franchi AL28 or 48.  it is an auto loading 20 ga.
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2009, 07:45:35 AM »
got an 870 20 ga that feels like a 30 cal carbine now , just got a carlson rifled choke for it .
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2009, 07:55:58 AM »
Yea but the Franchi is smaller and uses the A-5 browning recoil system.
But the 870 is a great gun.  I really like the carlson choke tubes.  The ones I have for steel / heavy shot work great.
The only other way I can see dumping weight is to go to a Single shot like the H&R's.
With one in your hand and the ejector fast follow up shots are possible.
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2009, 08:04:28 AM »
I like the pump alot , working on the 28 . A ruger RL in 28 might be nice also .
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2009, 01:24:59 PM »
just google rifled choke tubes there are tons for 20ga
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2009, 02:58:07 AM »
Yep there are , I have a couple . But so far none for the 28 .
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2009, 04:40:55 AM »
Shootall just curious what state are you in? Here in N.Y. I believe you can't use anything smaller than a 20ga for deer hunting with slugs.
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Re: 20 ga or 28 ga. rifled tube ?
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2009, 08:27:00 AM »
VA. we can hunt deer with a .410 if we want and some do with good effect .
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