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Re: Birth Certificate from Kenya
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2009, 12:55:45 PM »
Let me see now.  The airline said they could not let his mother fly until after the baby was born.
He has spent just under one million dollars to keep his records sealed just for the heck of it.
This is easy to settle.  Just produce that birth certificat and unseal his records.  Seems easy to do. Why not do it and show he is obeying the constitutional requirement??????
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« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2009, 01:01:54 PM »
Like I said, if the birth certificate from Hawaii is real.  That doesn't settle it.  Why is his college records sealed.  Speculation is he used foreign student status to get a free education.  That is a fraud and stealing.  Won't get him out of office, but sure puts mud on his face. 

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« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2009, 01:21:43 PM »
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Just produce that birth certificat



Why?  The Democrat party is having a field day laughing at our silly butts.   

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« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2009, 04:06:45 PM »
I don't beleive there has been anyone that has interviewed the head of the KENYA airport, or checked their records to see if infact his mother was or wasn't denied a boarding pass.
At least I havn't heard or read anything about this since it was first brought up.
That would go along way in clearing this up.
Why don't someone just check it out.
If it's false, then that is the end of that.


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Why?  The Democrat party is having a field day laughing at our silly butts.


Maybe they are laughing because they know that with THE LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE, being the head of the country that the records will remain sealed and there is nothing we can do to have them opened to revel the truth, whatever it may be!

Don't worry about their laughs, there is plenty out there for us to laugh at them about also!!!


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Re: Birth Certificate from Kenya
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2009, 04:22:54 PM »
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Why?  The Democrat party is having a field day laughing at our silly butts.   

While the Democratic party is laughing at my silly butt, which by the way is disappearing with age, they can while in that area of my anatomy, bend over and kiss it as well, as I have no intention of playing by their make'm up as you go rules.
As my aging is causing me to develop the dreaded "bullfrog butt" where the old man has no butt anymore, and it appears that, like the bullfrog, the legs simply emerge from the back, like my butt, my patience with our government to do the right thing are also disappearing, and I suppose I am developing a "bullfrog attitude" as I am ready to jump ship in my funding the fools in Washington.
They steal from me every Friday, and when we reach 52% taxes as it has been predicted, I will simply loose my job, and go on the dole, which will leave more time for picking the guitar, hunting and fishing, and entering more lying contests with my friends. I have after all supported them for almost 60 years, and the "moron in chief" wants to take care of me any way.
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Re: Birth Certificate from Kenya
« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2009, 06:49:36 AM »
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Re: Birth Certificate from Kenya
« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2009, 12:37:32 PM »
Sorry "Birthers", it's back to the rumor mill.  :) ;) :D ;D 8) :P :-*

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MARK COLVIN: An unsuspecting Adelaide public servant has found himself swept up in a conspiracy to oust the 44th President of the United States from office.

A movement known as the Birthers, which originated in California, is attempting to prove that Barack Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, therefore making him ineligible to be President.

In a bid to stake their claim they released what appeared to be a Kenyan birth certificate with Obama's name on it.

Sceptics soon traced the bogus birth certificate and found it to be a forgery. The document turns out to have been based on the birth certificate of an Adelaide man called David Jeffrey Bomford.

Dina Rosendorff broke the news to him.

DINA ROSENDORFF: David Jeffrey Bomford's language was a touch too colourful for radio when PM first contacted him with news his birth certificate had been used in a bid to oust Barack Obama.

Now that he's come to terms with his unwitting involvement in an international conspiracy, he's slightly more amused.

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: (Laughs) That is ridiculous. Little old person in Adelaide, the President of the United States. I don't know whether to laugh about it or not, be worried about it.

It is interesting someone from here being involved in a conspiracy - that is so funny.

DINA ROSENDORFF: It's believed computer hackers found Mr Bomford's birth certificate on his family's genealogy website.

They used it as the basis for a forgery in an attempt to prove President Obama was born in Kenya rather than Hawaii.

Only people born in the USA can be president.

The fake Kenyan birth document has been circulated by political opponents of Obama's, called the Birthers, who are out to unseat him.

A growing online community who are against the Birthers quickly picked apart the bogus birth certificate and traced it back to about as far from Kenya as you can get - Thebarton Community Hospital at Mile End in South Australia and David Jeffrey Bomford.

As for the unsuspecting man at the centre of the political storm, he says he's not a Birther - just a public service clerk from Adelaide.

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: I'm not involved in anything. To think that someone like me would be involved in an international conspiracy, considering I'm a conspiratist myself, I believe everything in all the old Roswell and all that rubbish. So this is quite funny.

DINA ROSENDORFF: Do you have anything against President Obama?

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: No. I think he was a good choice for President. Apart from that, I didn't at first think he was a good President but he's proved himself alright so he changed my mind.

DINA ROSENDORFF: Looking over the documents in question Mr Bomford still can't quite believe his eyes.

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: It's little old me and my mum and everything else up there. Oh I definitely confirm that the birth certificate was mine. That was quite easy to see - my address, even the style of the birth certificate was an old South Australian one.

So it's quite easy to identify that it's mine.

DINA ROSENDORFF: And looking at the fake Kenyan birth certificate what do you make of it?

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: It's definitely a copy of my certificate. It's so laughable it's ridiculous.

DINA ROSENDORFF: Internet security expert Dr Asha Rao from RMIT University says although this case is quite funny, it's also very dangerous.

ASHA RAO: It just shows you what is possible on the Internet; that ultimately digital documents come down to a string of zeros and ones. This is an extreme case. Of course they must have trawled around and found something they could use.

But it's also, you know, you really don't, if you put that up, that is the main document that shows your identity. So, identity theft starts with getting hold of that document. So it's very dangerous to put stuff like that online.

DINA ROSENDORFF: Mr Bomford agrees with the experts and says he'll definitely be removing it from the website.

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: I'm very surprised at how anyone would even find it on the net unless they were looking for something like that because it's buried on a little known research site that's particularly for my family.

So I was very, very surprised that anyone would even find it on the net. I'll be certainly contacting my friend who runs that web and asking him to remove it.

DINA ROSENDORFF: But he reckons it's a good story to tell his friends and family.

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: I'm not particularly worried about it because no-one would honestly believe that anyone like me would be involved in it - just a grey-haired old guy sitting in a corner in quiet old Adelaide.

MARK COLVIN: Adelaide public servant David Jeffrey Bomford ending that report by Dina Rosendorff.


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Re: Birth Certificate from Kenya
« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2009, 01:40:33 PM »
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    And it could be a far left tactic to discredit the people that received it.  What better way to make them look bad.  Exactly the type of tactic that they would use. Orly has not been assured yet of its authenticity but is trying to have that done now.  Would she do that if she knew it was a forgery?  Of course not. It apears the Left is in overtime mode.
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« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2009, 03:29:14 PM »
Hello All
    And it could be a far left tactic to discredit the people that received it.  What better way to make them look bad.  Exactly the type of tactic that they would use. Orly has not been assured yet of its authenticity but is trying to have that done now.  Would she do that if she knew it was a forgery?  Of course not. It apears the Left is in overtime mode.
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It could be that. I don't know where he was born & all his supporters lack credibility & some of these anti sources lack credibility as well. I believe this Kenyan BC has been proven a hoax. His college records would give him problems, but I don't think they will surface. As I have always thought, I don't believe anything will come of it.
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2009, 04:11:17 PM »
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And it could be a far left tactic to discredit the people that received it.


The so called "birthers" are a bunch of far out whack jobs.

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« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2009, 04:15:57 PM »
Iwish I'd thought of this scam. I wonder how much money Orly the dentist ans World Net Daily have collected on this one.

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« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2009, 04:23:15 PM »
Iwish I'd thought of this scam. I wonder how much money Orly the dentist ans World Net Daily have collected on this one.


Probably alot, but not near as much as was collected by those who preached that Cheney manipulated the World Oil prices or that Bush blew up the New Orleans Levees or caused hurricanes.

Some left wing nut jobs in my area said Bush caused some of our Tornados in AR to get the farm land prices down. That didn't work, but Obama got the prices down without a Tornado. I know efficiency when I see it!  ;D
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Re: Birth Certificate from Kenya
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2009, 04:26:55 PM »
Hi Alsaqr
     We have resorted to name calling now have we?
Thats O.K. if it differentiates my opinions from yours. I noticed that you use classic left tactics. One lefty trys to refute something and his buddy jumps right in to back him up.  Could it be that you both received your training in the same place?
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« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2009, 06:12:59 PM »
Not sure about the others but I received my training at public schools in PA. I was able to spot a hoax as obvious and ludicrous as this one by the time I finished fourth grade.  :-* :-* ;) ;) 8) 8)

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« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2009, 12:42:36 AM »
Yep, I was able to recognize a scam by a far out whack job by the time I was 10 or 11.

How much money did you give to Orly and WND?  Entertain us once more with the story about how Obama's pregnant mom was not allowed on the plane for Hawaii.    ;D

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« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2009, 01:09:47 AM »
Then, why won't he release his college records?  Bush did, and they found out that his GPA was higher than those who ran against him.  HMMM.  Not worried about the BC, but the college records will show him to be a lier.  He has already lied about, Guantanimo, Iraq, middle class tax cuts, the health care bill (what is in it), doesn't reach across the isle and make compromise bills with Republicans, not an open administration, seals and hides things.  Shall I go on?  Just wait 1-2 more years, and we will have high inflation and we still won't be in better shape.  Unemployment is going higher. 

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« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2009, 08:35:23 AM »
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       Alsaqr. Would that happen to be an Arabian Muslim name from perhaps Syria?
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« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2009, 12:38:56 PM »
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       Alsaqr. Would that happen to be an Arabian Muslim name from perhaps Syria?
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No it would be the handle of a white guy who was raised in WV.  A guy who spent a career in the US Army.  A guy who is descended from John Hart, signer of the Declaration of Independence and twelve Revolutionary War patriots. 

It would also be a guy who worked for many years in the middle east who likes to use the handle alsaqr-Arabic for falcon. 

Who would you be.  Did you ever serve in the US military? 

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« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2009, 12:43:43 PM »
If I understand the definition of "natural born citizen" correctly, for Obama to qualify he would have to be born on US soil and both parents be citizens.  Since his father was not a US citizen, neither is he.

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« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2009, 01:32:10 PM »
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If I understand the definition of "natural born citizen" correctly, for Obama to qualify he would have to be born on US soil and both parents be citizens.  Since his father was not a US citizen, neither is he.

The US Constitution does not define the term "natural born citizen".   Except for the children of foreign diplomats; every kid born in ths USA is a US citizen.  This is spelled out in the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.   

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« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2009, 02:01:22 PM »
The 14th also states that a citizen must be born to parents that are not subject forign control (for the lack of a better word).  Obama's father being a British national would not fulfill that part of the definition.  He would be a native born citizen but not natural born.  The only time this does not apply is to citizens at the time of ratification of the Constitution.  As with the founding fathers; there were no natural born citizens at that time.

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« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2009, 02:53:36 PM »
Hello Alsaqr
    You Betcha. US Army both me and my wife. Because you asked
My family came here in 1635 and helped build this country.
Everything from building railroads to scientists and many famous people are in it that would be recognized immediately. When the Declaration of Independence was signed my family had already been here for 141 years. Your name Alsaqr placed you in the middle east.
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« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2009, 04:01:20 PM »
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When the Declaration of Independence was signed my family had already been here for 141 years.


The family whose last name I bear came to the US in 1638.  Some other ancestors of mine came on the Mayflower. 

Thanks for your service to the USA. 

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« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2009, 04:57:46 PM »
Hi Alsaqr
    It seems we have some things in common.  some of my early ancestors Had a price on their heads placed there by the British.
They were appointed to their positions by George Washington.
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« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2009, 05:40:49 PM »
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« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2009, 08:40:54 PM »
Been away most of the day, so I am a little behind in posting.

Alsaqr:
Since you made the comment about the denied boarding pass I will assume it was directed to me so again I will state,
I have not seen or heard where that rumor/truth has ever been denied or followed up on since I first heard about it.
Doesn't change wheather or not he is a citizen, but would prove/disprove if he was born on US soil.
Just one more question unanswered!


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« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2009, 12:26:44 AM »
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The 14th also states that a citizen must be born to parents that are not subject forign control



That pertains to foreign diplomats only. 

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« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2009, 01:25:05 PM »
Also, how does a middle class kid get into Occidental College and to Harvard without financial help?  Did he or did he not use foreign status to get foreign scholorships?