Author Topic: And this is legal under islamic law. (Read 4377 times)

Sourdough · « **on:** July 20, 2009, 07:43:37 PM »

This is how Iran gets rid of opposition in that country.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534116,00.html?test=latestnews

And they want to bring this to Americia and all countries their people settle in.

no guns here · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2009, 11:04:09 PM »

I saw that this morning. These people are obviously stuck in the 1200's or so. They have no ability to change socially, morally or ideologically. The only thing they know is violence and subjugating all except islamic males. If anyone even thinks that there is the possibility of being able to "work" with islamists or being able to co-exist with them you are dead wrong. In my opinion the only way to deal with them in order to help ensure peace in the rest of the world is to destroy their civilization, temples, culture and people to the maximum extent possible. They are a pox upon the face of the earth. This type of evil is at the core of their belief. You can not even pretend to think that just because they are "modern" or "rich" or "westernized" that they won't betray you or lie to you or work to destroy you behind the scenes. We have this community in the USA. It is growing. It is conducting Sharia law in contravention to the laws of our land. They support and finance terrorism and actively work to destroy our nation.
They should be driven out or destroyed before it's too late. I think we should bring Sherman back and turn him loose on the middle east.

NGH

Cement Man · « **Reply #2 on:** July 21, 2009, 01:38:41 AM »

What both you guys said. Animals.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 21, 2009, 01:49:08 AM »

No need for Sherman, gimme full control of the US arsenal and a free hand for 2 weeks.

no guns here · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2009, 03:08:24 AM »

Retargeting the ICBM's takes little time. We could solve the problem in less than two hours... a little longer for nuclear Tomahawks...

NGH

billy_56081 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2009, 03:16:16 AM »

After 2 weeks I think the survivors will come out of their holes and gather. Then I'll finish off the rest.

gstewart44 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2009, 04:23:16 AM »

I kinda like what the squadrons of B52's did to the Iraqi army for 30days prior to Schwartzkoff moving in with his armor and ground troops. Those soldiers of Allah were stir crazy from the incessant bombing and ready to surrender at the sight of our troops.

Persia (Iran) was famous for its carpets......We need to give them carpet bombs.......

BBF · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2009, 06:09:53 AM »

It happens in their country to their people by their people, butt out !!

You got enough stink on your plate at home without worrying about someone else's IMO of course.

Wiping out a whole civilization as supported here by some is exactly what the other side wants to do so you are putting yourself on the same level IMO of course again.

If you are concerned that it comes your way, slam the door on immigration of all Muslims, assure that those that are here( wherever here is besides their country of origin) have no chance of seeing any of their legal or cultural baggage adopted as law in this part of the world.

I would consider that suitable to all immigrants regardless of culture or religion. Close up any of those so called Koran schools. Those in violation should face deportation back to their country, naturalized citizen or not.

France, yes of all countries in the West, is considering to make the wearing of the Mulim headgear illegal. Damn, who would have thought that of France !!?

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2009, 09:31:45 AM »

That is just sick.

Dale

woodchukhntr · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2009, 11:10:31 AM »

And the liberals whine over the treatment the Guantanamo prisoners get? Whey don't they whine over the treatment the Muslims give their prisoners?

Questor · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2009, 02:43:47 PM »

Not a lot of women writing islamic laws, eh?

DDZ · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2009, 03:01:50 PM »

How many times have we heard that Islam is the religion of peace? I guess some people see only what they want to see.

gypsyman · « **Reply #12 on:** July 22, 2009, 01:24:14 AM »

And I guess some of us just see the campfire and everybody singing kumby yah!gypsyman

no guns here · « **Reply #13 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:37:30 AM »

Quote from: BBF on July 21, 2009, 06:09:53 AM

It happens in their country to their people by their people, butt out !!

You got enough stink on your plate at home without worrying about someone ele's IMO of course.

Wiping out a whole civilization as supprted here by some is exactly what the other side wants to do so you are putting yourself on the same level IMO of course again.

If you are concerned that it comes your way, slam the door on immigration of all Muslims, assure that those that are here( wherever here is besides their country of origin) have no chance of seeing any of their legal or cultural baggage adopted as law in this part of the world.

I would consider that suitable to all immigrants regardless of culture or religion. Close up any of those so called Koran schools. Those in violation should face deportation back to their country, naturalized citizen or not.

France, yes of all countries in the West, is considering to make the wearing of the Mulim headgear illegal. Damn, who would have thought that of France !!?

I'd be happy to stay out of their business BUT they export that crap to us and all over the world.

It'd be nice to slam the door on their immigration but hey... what chances do you think that has of working with something like 12 million illegals in the US. Not a very good precedent for stopping their immigration.

You can't close up the Koran schools UNLESS you are willing to give up the Constitution. If the government can close those up... then the Catholic schools and all the others are gone too.

They are already here, they are propagating, they are teaching their evil in our country, in Britain, in France, in Germany, in China, in India, in Indonesia... everywhere. They are spreading their evil across the globe. Everyone is intent on being nice and not offending anyone. Everyone is afraid of being labelled as a "bad" person if they say anything. Nobody wants to call a spade a spade. I say the islamists are devil-spawn and should be wiped out.

They are what will cause the next World War. Not Russia or China. Somebody will tick them off and then for the most part their only allegiance will be to islam, not to their country. They will have to be fought on a global scale.

I say we kill them in their home countries before we have to destroy part of ours to defeat them.

NGH

billy_56081 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:46:02 AM »

Well said NGH.

Only the ignorant can be stupid enough to this the cancer called islam will not spread if left unchecked.

BBF · « **Reply #15 on:** July 22, 2009, 07:03:03 AM »

NGH :
I'm puzzled that you think by wiping out their home countries would stop them in other places.
As far as being against the Constitution by closing their schools. Well, I believe the present Admin is playing pretty loose with the Constitution now and considering what is being taught in those schools some legal means could be found to filter the textbooks, declare the school as a threat to national security, whatever some Govt legal beagles can come up with.
Some of the EU countries are very aware of the problem and IMO are going to act before long. It won't be pretty.

rio grande · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2009, 07:21:18 AM »

Quote from: billy_56081 on July 21, 2009, 03:16:16 AM

After 2 weeks I think the survivors will come out of their holes and gather. Then I'll finish off the rest.

That is genocide. Think what you are saying. Women, children, innocent people.
No Sir, I would not be a party to that.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:09:31 AM »

So Rio, I guess I can count you out for the BBQ then? Your loss.

no guns here · « **Reply #18 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:17:50 AM »

Not to quibble over terms but please look up genocide. It's not genocide. Not racial or ethnic in the least. Religious-cide (what's the word?, I'm not thinking well).

Well, wiping out their home countries stops the most radical. It gets rid of their religious foundation. It also changes the center of gravity of the religious disparity and conflict.

yep, the present admin is fast and loose with the Constitution. That doesn't mean that I condone it or am willing to permit the government to go down the path of religious persecution within the borders of the USA. About 10 minutes later, they will declare the Church of God and Assemblies of God and the Southern Baptist Convention to be enemies of the state as well.

You are right... I think the EU will revert to fairly hard-core right wing position in the not to distant future. It won't be pretty at all. Parts of the EU have pretty high percentages of islamists in some of their cities.

The US gov won't do anything though. It's up to the rank and file conservative American to do something...

NGH

billy_56081 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:26:52 AM »

And BBF how about your country butt out. And we'll do as we please with ours.

BBF you are not even invited to the party, it is for Americans only.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #20 on:** July 22, 2009, 08:40:40 AM »

BBF if the schools teach illegal pratices and arrange such pratices then they may be open to being closed . If they conspire to commit crimes they may be closed .
My grandfather was once offered some chickens . Seems the chickens had gotten out and could not be caught . The offer was for him to come shoot them as he needed them and he could have them . So my dad ( 9 years old ) and grampaw went over and shot 4 for sunday dinner . A couple days later they went back for a couple more only to find out that the rest had gone back in the chicken house .
Never underestimate a show of force !

m-g Willy · « **Reply #21 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:25:02 PM »

Quote from: rio grande on July 22, 2009, 07:21:18 AM

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That is genocide. Think what you are saying. Women, children, innocent people.
No Sir, I would not be a party to that.

You sound as though you think of muslims as humans!!

Would you ask the age, or sex, of a poisonous snake before you killed it?

powderman · « **Reply #22 on:** July 22, 2009, 12:43:32 PM »

NGH. Good posts. My sig line pretty well tells the story. They are satans disciples. ANY iman preaching tyranny against America should be beaten with an uncured ham and jowls, then deported. His mosque should be destroyed. Their mosques are their lairs, where hatred and death are preached and taught. POWDERMAN.

rio grande · « **Reply #23 on:** July 22, 2009, 01:38:53 PM »

Quote from: m-g Willy on July 22, 2009, 12:25:02 PM

Quote from: rio grande on July 22, 2009, 07:21:18 AM
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That is genocide. Think what you are saying. Women, children, innocent people.
No Sir, I would not be a party to that.

You sound as though you think of muslims as humans!!

Would you ask the age, or sex, of a poisonous snake before you killed it?

Yes, I do think Muslims are humans. If you think all Muslims are slimy cut-throats you are mistaken.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", now lets see, who said that?
You who call for indiscriminate murder of innocent women and children should be ashamed of yourselves. What makes you better than torturers and rapists?
If you want to fight, fight 'em man to man. If you have the .... courage!

gypsyman · « **Reply #24 on:** July 22, 2009, 01:49:47 PM »

Anyone of us here would like to fight them man to man. Trouble is, their usually hiding behind the women that they havn't raped or killed yet!! gypsyman

billy_56081 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 22, 2009, 01:54:33 PM »

It's sad that a grown up can be so silly that they can't see muslims as the animals they are. I'm sure that it is because these kids have been mislead and have never been to a muslim country.

DDZ · « **Reply #26 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:09:19 PM »

Quote from: gypsyman on July 22, 2009, 01:49:47 PM

Anyone of us here would like to fight them man to man. Trouble is, their usually hiding behind the women that they havn't raped or killed yet!! gypsyman

Or tying dynamite to thier kids.

DDZ · « **Reply #27 on:** July 22, 2009, 02:34:01 PM »

Islam believes that their prophet Muhammad taught absolute truth. The truth they believe is that its Allah’s will for them to rule the earth. Therefore if Islam does not defeat Israel and the rest of us, Muhammad and the Quran are wrong, and that’s absolutely unthinkable to them.
Islam does not mean peace, it means submission. Their objective is for everyone to be in submission to them. The teachings of the Quran insist that no matter how powerful a nation is, it must be fought until it embraces Islam. Parts of America do not understand radical Islam, which is embraced with the destruction of America in mind.

m-g Willy · « **Reply #28 on:** July 22, 2009, 03:22:39 PM »

Quote from: rio grande on July 22, 2009, 01:38:53 PM

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lves. What makes you better than torturers and rapists?
If you want to fight, fight 'em man to man. If you have the .... courage!

What makes me better?

I never tortured or raped anyone.
I never told anyone else to do these things .
I never taught anyone to strap a bomb to thier self and blow inncent people up.
I never flew a airliner into a sky scrapper ending 1000's of innocent lives!!
I didn't dance in the streets after 9/11 like those innocent muslims you refer too.

MAN TO MAN??
When has a muslim ever showed any human trait to be considered a man?
They are vermin and should be treated as such.

gstewart44 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 22, 2009, 04:06:20 PM »

Quote from: rio grande on July 22, 2009, 01:38:53 PM

Quote from: m-g Willy on July 22, 2009, 12:25:02 PM
Quote from: rio grande on July 22, 2009, 07:21:18 AM
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That is genocide. Think what you are saying. Women, children, innocent people.
No Sir, I would not be a party to that.

You sound as though you think of muslims as humans!!

Would you ask the age, or sex, of a poisonous snake before you killed it?

Yes, I do think Muslims are humans. If you think all Muslims are slimy cut-throats you are mistaken.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", now lets see, who said that?
You who call for indiscriminate murder of innocent women and children should be ashamed of yourselves. What makes you better than torturers and rapists?
If you want to fight, fight 'em man to man. If you have the .... courage!

Rio G - Some 65 years ago the United States and the rest of the world were engaged in a bloody and costly war against the Nazis and Empire of Japan. Those courageous young men were part of what has been called "The Greatest Generation". In August of 1945 the decision was made by the President of the United States and carried out by the crew of the Enola Gay to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. He made this difficult decision because he knew our country was facing an enemy that would rather die for their Emporer than surrender (just as the Islamic fanatics wish to die for Allah and take out as many of us as possible). President Truman did not wish to sacrifice any more of the Greatest Generation fighting "man to man" with fanatics that would die before surrender no matter the cost.

So - in your view of the world is President Truman and the crew of the Enola Gay and every other support serviceman on the same level as "torturers and rapists"?
Was President Truman lacking in "courage" because he did not want our Soldiers and Marines to have to fight on the Japanese mainland "man to man"?

Throughout history it has been proven that extreme enemies require extreme measures. Today is just as extreme as 1945.