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Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« on: July 15, 2009, 09:22:11 AM »
Are you in favor of nationalized health care?

Will it better your situation?
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2009, 09:25:25 AM »
Not no but HELL NO!

There is NOTHING that will improve via nationalization.


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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2009, 09:31:45 AM »
Are you kidding ???

If it happens I pray I never get sick.

Ask someone in Canada how they like it.

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2009, 09:36:58 AM »
I would like to enlarge on the view held by GB.


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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 10:03:35 AM »
Not no but HELL NO!

There is NOTHING that will improve via nationalization.

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2009, 10:04:32 AM »
I work in this industry.  Believe me, you DO NOT WANT THIS.
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2009, 10:09:29 AM »
I picture the VA write large ... nope. Not for it.
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2009, 10:17:38 AM »
It's a serious question. A lot of people are in favor of it. Ask most any Canadian on the street and they'll say they're happy with their system. (probably because they don't use it much.)

I can see this passing with little resistance. After all, the Republicans are just as much a party of big government as are the Democrats.

Great galaxies, GB, I don't believe you've ever used such salty language on this forum before.
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2009, 10:42:34 AM »
Canadians pay more in tax, though, eh? Does their program provide for immigrants or just citizens?
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2009, 10:58:54 AM »
If it does let's all become self employed I heard a figure of 2.5 percent of your income. We can all barter and use cash and get healthcare for 500 a year.


No I am not in favor of it.
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2009, 11:10:51 AM »
If the Canadians are so happy with it why do they all come to the US to get care that they cannot get in Canada? The wait there is ridiculously long.  SO I AM AGAINST ANY TYPE OF NATIONALIZED HEALTHCARE. WHEN THE GOVERNMENT GETS INVOLVED EVERYTHING GETS MESSED UP AND COST 200 TIMES MORE!!!! >:(

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2009, 11:24:53 AM »
                                         



                                                                     NO...NO...NO...NO...
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2009, 11:31:15 AM »
Nope.

Every problem in our healthcare "system" can be traced to government meddling. More meddling is never the
answer.
Hell, the folks screaming about "corporate" abuse don't seem to realize that, by definition, a corporation is a
government protected entity. Follow that road a bit further with healthcare, and we'll soon have a Soviet type system
in which only the rich and connected will have any sort of access to decent services, while the rest of us will be
stuck with squalid clinics... probably netting a bunch more sick people anyway, as those places are breeding grounds
for sickness.

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2009, 11:32:54 AM »
what  i  favor is  irrelavent  
tho  i  think  they  will  mess it up  like they  do every thing

the  10th  amendment  forbids  it

elections  have  concequences
we   will  get  futher  expantion  of government
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2009, 11:40:18 AM »
Maybe you should have written the question in Spanish.

For myself, NO THANKS, and I can think of a lot of other things I would like the Federal Gov't to not be involved in
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2009, 11:55:24 AM »
NO!

It used to be a goal after high school to go to college or tech school so a person could get a decent paying job with "benefits".
 "Benefits" included health care and 401k and could mean an additional 4 to 5 dollars per hour or more depending on the 401k match and the health care plan.
 ocare is going to take away another motivating factor to succeed since most peoples nest egg is gone or mostly gone if their retirement was in the stock market.

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2009, 11:57:33 AM »
TM this socialism you are pushing here is kind of personal to you isn't it?
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2009, 12:04:52 PM »
TM7--You are making a very strong assumption that those currently in charge are the right and proper ones to create or reform this healthcare system. That's an incredible and dangerous leap.
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2009, 12:33:09 PM »
They are not out to fix the things that are wrong with health care.  As far as making sure they do it right, it's far too late...it's been written already, and now to make matters worse they made it so you can't read all this stuff before it passes anymore, probably due to the fact many of us were printing up the last bad pieces of legislation and too many people got informed what's in it.  No more transparency...too dangerous.  Congress of course will make sure THEY don't get this health care package.  They will force it down people's throats, and then when businesses that don't want it start getting fined for not offering health care, they will either take the fines out of the people that work for them, or just plain close down, or if the business is large enough they will simply boot their employees into the gov. package because the tax will be cheaper than what they pay now.  It's going to be a forced deal.  and yep...I laugh at people who think or hear Canadians love their health care...it's funny...considering they are making private medial care available now to the people there due to the people's complaints and the big mess they have there.  I worked with Canadians for some years...they said if you were healthy, it was a good system, but if you needed something, cross the border or die waiting.  The Democraps and Republicrats have pretty much thrown us all aside now...it's over, barring some major uprising, it's going to pass, and nobody will know the details until it does.  The taxes for this, of course they will tell you the very wealthy will pay for it...I laugh at that too. For one thing it's un American to pick out a class of people and stick it to them, it's un American for government to pick winners and losers...for another thing...it don't work, the cost gets transfered to us anyway.   They interviewed a young democrap today in Congress about this health bill....he was no where near as smart as me...and that is pretty dangerous, cause I'm not all that smart.  These people getting elected have no logic or common sense at all.  

We are pretty much doomed at this point.  Unless the people rise up and fast.  Flood the phone lines folks....it's all we got now.  

Ya TM...if they would do it correctly....and butt out at the same time....but you know they won't.  They need to slow down put the brakes on fast...health care is already FREE for many....that's not the problem!  It's the cost, lack of competition and such...and we all know government is NOT going to fix that at all...they do NOT want competition, and anything the gov. does is WAY more expensive with far less quality involved. That we know for a fact. 

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2009, 12:43:24 PM »
it may not pass there are the southern blue dog democrats that are opposing nat'l health care. they realize it is not affordable.

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2009, 12:46:35 PM »
No, but I think we already have it.

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2009, 01:02:22 PM »
Dorothy Daily:

I hope you are right.

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2009, 01:16:40 PM »
I'm in favor of it for lots of reasons, but those dopes in the White House....
I think they'll just mess it all up!

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2009, 01:19:40 PM »
TM you are the one who rails against big government, socialism, and all this made up goverment conspiracy garbage. So why are you for this socialist medical program? Why don't you share with this why you are in favor of this socialism?



I am sure you will either ignore my question or try change the subject, but maybe you should share withus why you are a medical socialist.
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2009, 01:20:40 PM »
An answer to the question if Canada provides health care for aliens, legal or illegal.  A few years back a man was seriously wounded in Norton, VT; a stabbing or shooting.  The nearest hospital was in Sherbrooke Quebec.  Canadian border patrol told the ambulance that if the person did not have private insurance that person would not be admitted to Canada.  The person died before they could get him to another trauma hospital.  

So GB, HHHHEEELLL NOOOO

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2009, 01:44:44 PM »
No logical person who is not currently on Gov. aid would want it.

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2009, 01:44:49 PM »
A BIG HELL NO FROM ME AS WELL!!!!!!!!  >:(
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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2009, 01:50:21 PM »
"Fraud, waste, and abuse" were descriptions created by our government that apply represent how our government institutions are efficiently managed by politicians.  We now have politicians (thus lawyers) in charge of car manufacturing, the mortgage industry, and some of the largest banks in the country. After seeing how inefficient they are at running our education system, postal system (government sponsored monopoly), "welfare", and agricultural department(where food stamps are dispensed) why would we want them to run our health care institutions? Of course it would give our "elected" officials say over who is treated while "hiding" behind beaucratic "red tape", and controlling even more of our tax dollars. Are we crazy ::)! They are the problem, not the solution! No way, Jose'!

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2009, 01:50:59 PM »
I wonder what the ratio is between taxpayers to welfare leeches and illegal immigrants in canada compared to the US?

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Re: Are you in favor of nationalized health care?
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2009, 02:06:34 PM »
first watch this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw

Then call your Congressmen and tell them hell NO.

We need to address these first:

Health Insurance regulation/reform among our leading health providers...like Medicaid and Medicare

Tort Reform

Obama won't do either as he is in league with both Health insurance providers and the ABA. He won't dare hurt his lawyer buddies.

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