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Offline markp

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« on: July 03, 2009, 06:26:34 PM »
I think stogers come with both single and some with dbl triggers.  Is there an atvantage to one or the other ?  Are they good guns ? They seem to sell for about $350.00. Is that the going price these days ?

I dont shoot cowboy but I know folks here might have some input. Hope its ok to put this here.


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Re: coachgun
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 01:16:28 PM »
Hi, Mark,
The Stoeger coachgun is a fine CAS shotgun. My wife shoots one (double trigger) when she shoots the black powder categories in SASS. It was her first CAS gun, and it's still going strong after seven years. Stoeger was bought by Beretta several years ago, and there have been reports of parts being hard to get. I can't comment personally on that, as the only parts I've replaced on Lorelei's gun have been the firing pins, and I got the hardened firing pins from Long Hunter http://www.longhunt.com/gunparts/gun_parts-sp.shtml.

As far as the single versus the double trigger, I favor the double trigger for Cowboy shoots because of simplicity. There is less to go wrong with that system. For bird hunting, the double trigger is actually a better choice, if you have different chokes in each barrel (the stock non-interchangeable choke on a Stoeger is Improved Cylinder in one barrel and Modified in the other). That lets you decide at the time of firing which choke you want to use; especially useful in bird hunting as you don't know how far the critter is going to flush. The single trigger lets you decide which barrel to fire first depending on a selector lever (which takes a fraction of a second longer to set if you have to change it), and the second barrel is then selected by the recoil of the shotgun.

I've never fired a Stoeger single trigger gun, but there are reports of other low-end single trigger doubles "doubleing", or firing both barrels at once. There are also reports of failure to reset with low-recoil loads. These have not been Stoegers, but other guns. I have yet to see a single-trigger Stoeger up close, or even talk to someone who owns one.

All that being said, Lorelei and I both use double trigger shotguns for CAS (mine is an external hammer TTN) and single trigger shotguns for skeet (Browning Citoris).  I really don't find one any faster that the other, once you get used to either system.

 
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Re: coachgun
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2009, 04:44:44 PM »
Thanks Lazarus Longshot.

I looked again at the stoeger dbl trigger and think I prefer that to the single. This will give me the option
of which barrel I wish to shoot first. Not sure if there is a selector on the  single trigger model.

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Re: coachgun
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2009, 04:46:52 PM »
Rereading your post it appears there is a selector on the single tigger.  No mater I suspect I will go with
the dbl trigger if I make the plunge.

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Re: coachgun
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2010, 02:04:38 PM »
There is no selector on the single trigger version. It shoots right barrel, then left barrel.

Mine doubled right out of the box every time I fired it (7 times total). The dealer sent it back to Stoeger a few weeks ago. I have no idea if or when it will return.

I also have a double trigger version... it works fine so far (a hundred or so rounds thru it).

Get the "Supreme" version that comes with the rubber butt pad. You will be glad you have the butt pad... believe me. If you get the cheaper version that does not have the rubber pad, you will be adding a rubber pad really quick after you shoot it a few times. It will cost you about 50 bucks more for the Supreme version, but you get a nicer stock, a rubber pad already installed, screw in chokes, and choice of all nickle or a stainless receiver.

The screw in chokes are the same as "Winchester-Mossberg" chokes, so no problem getting aftermarket chokes for it ( stainless steel ...  http://www.trulockchokes.com ... about $20 bucks apiece )

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Re: coachgun
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 12:26:20 PM »
I thought I would follow up on my statement about sending a Stoeger Single trigger back for double firing.

I got it back after about 5 weeks. They replaced a whole bunch of stuff on the gun.

It still double fires.

My double trigger version is still working fine.

I am thinking that if a factory smith can not make a single trigger model work that there is some sort of design issue with it.

I am going to try sending it back again, and see if they can swap it out for a double trigger if they can't fix it.

Truthfully, I have lost all confidence in the gun. I have never experienced this kind of crap before.




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Re: coachgun
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2010, 08:42:31 PM »
SASS rule book says double triggers only. A Single trigger are not period specific. The shot gun can have either outside hammers or be hammerless.

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Re: coachgun
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2011, 04:34:26 AM »
Perhaps you can show me where it says that in the "Shooters Handbook" I seem to have missed it.

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Re: coachgun
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2011, 12:13:19 PM »
An update to my single trigger Stoeger "doubling".

The Benelli head service guru thinks that there is nothing wrong with the gun, but an incompatibility between me and it. Between my size and weight and hold and trigger technique and ammo, he believes that it is rebounding and the trigger is getting bounced twice. He told me that when it happens, it happens so fast that it sounds like one big boom.

The guy seemed really interested in resolving my problem. He senses my frustration and decided that the best solution is to swap it out for a double trigger model.

I'll report back when that all happens.

Rick

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Re: coachgun
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2011, 12:28:43 PM »
I believe the only good argument in favor of a single trigger is that some configurations with double triggers will cause the rear end of the trigger guard to batter your middle finger. I had a gun that did that once. I guess for clay bird shooters that may be a consideration, but I don't notice it happening anymore for no more shooting I do hunting. I would rather have the simplicity and reliability of doubles.

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Re: coachgun
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2011, 03:00:20 PM »
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Re: coachgun
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2011, 09:30:26 AM »
With a semi auto, at least there is a delay as the action cycles.

With a SxS, there is a whole lot less delay. If this is what is happening, it just sounds and feels like one loud and painful bang.