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Bore/Groove diameters
« on: June 30, 2009, 12:49:38 PM »
Does anyone know what these are for 357 mag barrels?  Is there some standard resource for this sort of info? 

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Re: Bore/Groove diameters
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2009, 02:16:47 PM »
   This may sound crazy but, this is how I was told the easy way is.  You load a cast lead bullet in front of 1/2 grain powder and fire it into a sack of rags. Recover the bullet and measure with a dial caliper. Otherwise, you can get soft lead slugs to slug your bore from Veral Smith at Lead Bullet Technologies. And, by the way, this is a site that will open your eyes with info, LBT is a good read!

The minor variances in barrels have one answer- Slug Your Bore!!

      As far as info goes, a 357 is .357, a 38 is .358, a 9mm is .355 and all so close together. To reload lead, use .002 over for accuracy. That means .359 if the barrel is a true 357, or whatever it slugs to.
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Re: Bore/Groove diameters
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2009, 04:09:37 PM »
I guess my question is how deep are the grooves in a .38 barrel.
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Re: Bore/Groove diameters
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2009, 09:46:21 PM »
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This may sound crazy but, this is how I was told the easy way is.  You load a cast lead bullet in front of 1/2 grain powder and fire it into a sack of rags.

You are correct, it is crazy.   It is also a great way to stick a bullet in your barrel or cylinder gap - so you'd have to pound it through with a rod anyway.  Half a grain of what powder?  Bullseye?  BlueDot?  H110?  Don't ever try it.   Get a pure lead slug - a fishing weight, etc. - lube it well and hammer it down the bore carefully.   

I don't know the answer to the OP's question, sorry.






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Re: Bore/Groove diameters
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2009, 11:08:36 PM »
     I believe that the 38 is supposed to have .358 diameter at the groove depth, the top of the lands will vary with whatever degree of wear there is on the bore. But, all that is subject to whatever mood the machinist who made it is in. As an example, I have a 32-20 that is made with a .309 bore because TC made them to fit .30 caliber bullets. I bought it used and it has a measurement .311 slugged. It's not "what it's supposed to be" that counts, it's what it really is.

    And Lone Star is right, if you've never gathered up a mallet, extra cleaning rods or dowels to slug a barrel, you may as well start.  The pistol in my picture, I slugged it twice. I stuck a couple of bullets in the barrel, tapped them out.  Shot a couple of bullets COMPLETELY through the box of rags, etc.  The powder I used was 4759 but, that doesn't matter. With one bullet, it was fine. When I changed to a lighter bullet weight, then I shot it through the rags into the ground! I had to drop the powder charge to accomodate the measuring process.  -All of this is subject to how much tinkering and experimenting your patience will stand-

     If you're buying bullets, a 38 is .358. If you're casting your own and sizing them, you can still use .358 and go as big as .362 (.360 being good). As soft as lead shoots, it isn't finicky or picky about size unless it's undersized and then, it gets inaccurate at some point.  I just size mine to specs and if they don't shoot good then, I'll oversize them the extra 2 thousandths.  Just relax, think, and err on the side of caution. A cool head and calm disposition can accomplish a lot. Never be in too much of a hurry to think about the task twice and do it once.     Good Luck
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