Author Topic: REMINGTON TITANIUM (Read 4819 times)

razmuz · « **on:** September 22, 2003, 10:58:32 AM »

Any of you guys got one of these rifles? Do they shoot as well as the steel BDL? With a scope do they balance out right? Do you think their worth the extra $500?

Muddyboots · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2003, 01:48:32 PM »

Local gunshop owner has one in .308 and it shoots as good as any rifle I have seen. He is taking it to Canada for Caribou and is good choice for weather and lightness since you tend to travel a bunch after caribou. I wouldn't want to shoot heavier than 150 gr bullets out of due to light weight or spend much time on bench since it does come off bag like a rattlesnake strike. But the advantages do outweigh the cons for certain applications. If you are just hunting WT's in local woods, no advantages at all. My 2 cents.
Muddyboots

Omaha-BeenGlockin · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2003, 11:06:36 AM »

The one I had was a .270-----nothing special accuracy wise----was a good carrying rifle and I shot my deer last year with it---on the run.

Worth $500 more??? ---nope--------I'm kinda picky about accuracy and don't feel confident with a rifle that's not a tack driver----even though it got the job done----I wasn't really happy with it.

I don't care much for Remington 700's either and don't own them any more-----of the 5 or 6 I've owned---none of them is what I'd call a good shooter------even after I adjusted the triggers down to a resonable weight and all. The internal key safety is REALLY annoying too.

I don't like the bolt up-lifts on the Remingtons either------that's why I prefer the Tikka's and Brownings----well----one of the reasons.

As stated on this board before----I've had darn near every high dollar rifle out there-----you really don't need to spend the big bucks to get a good gun-----again Tikka's and Browning's are all you really need to look at.

If you're really set on spending big bucks on a gun----have a custom one made to your specs-----or look closely at the Dakota's-----HS Precision and the like. Cooper's are good too(cheaper too)---but .308 (short action) is about the biggest you can get a gun in.

HHI #4694 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 08, 2003, 05:42:13 PM »

I could not disagree more about the Browning A-bolts. They are horrible rifles. Made of pins, tiny pieces, poorly designed sub-assemblies, and a whole lot of pot metal. They are over engineered japanese junk rifles and a black eye to John Browning's genius.

The Tikka is whole lot better rifle than the A-Bolt, but I really wouldn't want one of them either. :?

Zachary · « **Reply #4 on:** October 09, 2003, 07:03:46 AM »

I own both A-Bolts and Tikkas. The A-Bolts that I have are the original A-Bolts, not the newer A-Bolt IIs. I have been told, and I don't know if this is true, that the newer A-Bolt IIs are not as good as the original A-Bolts.

Anyway, both of my A-Bolts are Stainless Stalkers and I bought them back in 1989 and 1990. They are in .270 and 7Mag and both shoot like a dream.

I don't know about the internal mechanisms, but I think that the quality is definately there. Have I ever had any problems? Nope. In fact, I have used them through very tough conditions and they have never let me down. Don't get me wrong, I too have heard that the A-Bolts, or at least the newer ones, are "over engineered." But still, I have never had any problems with them.

As for the Tikkas, well, they truly are very simple and high quality rifles.

Zachary

retiree · « **Reply #5 on:** December 11, 2003, 05:52:30 PM »

Well, I do know about the pins, etc. I am a machinist and have two of the the early A-bolt stainless stalkers. They are just as good as a Remington or Winchester (actually better). I have had a lot of experience with the others, including Rugers and I don't fear to work on my own rifles. I have added over travel and take up adjustment screws and the graphite stocks are very durable and take bedding very well. I have steel bedded both of these rifles and they both shoot VERY well (a 30-06 and a 7mm Rem Mag.) I really like the three lug actions and I have downed quite a few deer with this pair. Now this doesn't mean I dislike Rems. On the contrary they are among my favorites rifles, because they are available in so many different styles, and Jewell triggers beat even the best that I can do on the A-bolts. But don't down the A-bolts for "too many pins" and sub-assemblies, they have no more than a 700 and that three lug bolt may very well be stronger in a detonation situation (it certainly can be dissembled without a special tool).

HHI #4694 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2003, 03:45:10 PM »

As for the original question. Yes, I like the 700 Titanium quite a bit. This rifle is put together a whole lot better than the average 700, no doubt about it. This is Remington's high end flagship product and they obviously put extra care into the rifle. Sort of like GM's Cadillac being more carefully assembled than the the GM Malibu.

I have seen these 700 Titaniums sell for between $600-$700 used in fine shape. No need to spend over $1,000 at the gun shop. I just picked up a 700 Titanium in 260 Rem for $550.00, with only 17 rounds through it. However, that was a special situation and very low price. At the price, I just could not say no, even though I am not a huge Rem 700 fan. I thought it might be fun to compare it to my ULA at the range.
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HHI #4694 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2003, 04:03:13 PM »

Retiree,

We will have to agree to disagree on this subject. Comparing a Browning A-Bolt favorably with a Remington 700 or even worse, a Winchester model 70, is to me simply ludicrous. To make such a statement, I can only assume you have no idea what you are talking about.

Browning's A-Bolt is a running joke among serious hunters. The extensive use of pot metal alloys is a disgrace. As long time and serious member of SCI, no other rifle has as many failures in the field as this japanese junk rifle. Enire articles have been published in "Safari" about these rifles failing in the field. One member fell with his rifle while sheep hunting. The entire pot metal trigger guard and trigger were sheared off, leaving the rifle useless. This was all reported in "Safari".

You should e-mail well known former professional Brown Bear guide, and now African guide, JJ. Hackawitz. He is leader of the African Hunting forum here. He will flat out tell you that more of these junk rifles have failed for his clients than any other brand. Please ask him to send you the picture of the blown barrel on the A-Bolt during an Alaskan hunt.

No reputable high end custom rifle builder will use the A-Bolt platform for top hunting rifles. Comparing it to a 70 or 700 is like comparing a Yugo to a Cadillac. John Browning would roll in his grave if he could see this disgrace to his company. :oops:

Eagle Eye · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2003, 07:15:08 AM »

I agree about the poor quality of Browning....I had a firing pin literally snap while doing sight in on a brand new Stainless Stalker. After that was fixed, I had continued problems with the fire control system. The gunsmith finally shook his head and said I recommend you go back to Remington. I did. Ask me if I have any faith in Browning quality. :evil: One thing is for sure, I would never take a Browning to a bear hunt!