dying breed

[a4beltfed2000]

Guys,

  

   I have to rant here a little. I feel like a dying breed. We are a conservative family(in our 30's with kids), we live in a small home (980 Sq ft),in the country,we grow most of our own food.  we kill or grow our own meat. We buy very little unless we have to, we are God fearing, we respect nature, recycle. We even fertilize using chicken manure from our coop. Our family serves when called (my grandfather and father were drafted in the Marines, I volunteered. My wifes grandfather and father were in the navy in vietnam and WW2. We have family serving now

   We do dog rescues and have fund raisers to  pay for vetting/ fixing dogs for people who wish to adopt one or cannot afford to properly vet their dogs. Our group has placed 146 dogs from the animal shelters with new families,instead of them being put down.  All this from the money that we have raised on our own, no state or grant money used. I am also a member of the wolf dog rescue

   Now our county has a new preposal banning the ownership of some animals, animals that are non native to wisconsin, or considered dangerous. The biggest concern that we have is Wolf dogs, as we have 2 that we have taken in and will stay with us for duration of their lives.

These guys DON"T make good pets, difficult to house break, they will distroy furniture, they HATE cats.

I understand the concern with them just as the Rots, pittbulls, German shepards, Dobs and many of the more aggressive dogs. However, its the irresponible breeding or care of the animals not the animals themselves that cause the problem.
Now I am faced with the realization that they may force owners to surrender these animals to have them put down.

  Furthermore, hunting season is around the corner. While I am a avid hunter, I am extremely upset with the way of hunters handle everything around here. Deer season arrives and every one with a gun shows up (many from out of state, Illinois mostly) and shoot at anything going through the woods. When gun season is over we find alot of dead deer, and a number of them wounded.

   We have even reported deer dead in the woods with antlers cut off. Last year, I hung a sign out by the road stating to leave unwanted deer here instead of leaving them in the woods. Last season there were 5 deer that I processed, that I didn't shoot. Oh my lord you should have seen some of them, 2 to 3 bullet holes through some of them

    We spent a entire saturday cleaning up the parking areas around the public hunting and fishing grounds where people dump their garbage(fast food wrappers, cardboard ammo boxes, and even beer cans)

People dump their garbage and pets, I have seen dogs chasing their owners down the road or come home to find yet another litter of cats dropped off at our place.

I am so ashamed of how humans treat everything. My kids ask me why people do what they these things, I can only say "I dont know"

I look around at what we humans are doing to our world, and I just want to set down and cry, for me there is always a furry shoulder to lean on   
   

     

 

[Dixie Dude]

I know how you feel.  I taught my boys to only kill what they eat unless it is a varmit.  I understand about the "slob" hunters.  Most are from the city and don't think about things like littering or caring about nature or private property. 

[Questor]

Are you saying that wolf dogs are OK? I personally think they should either be killed or put in a place where they can't hurt anyone. We have a wolf research facility within a few miles of my house and they keep some wolf dogs there. The people who work there do not go into the pen with the wolf dogs in it. They have told me that they are far more dangerous than wolves, and are fundamentally truly dangerous animals. Their word is good enough for me.

[crustaceous]

Hold the course. You sound like a good person facing an onslaught of bad. All you can do is take care of what's yours and raise you kids right. You can't save the world by yourself. I commend your efforts.

[a4beltfed2000]

The US CDC has listed the wolf dog as the 6th most dangerous dog in the united states, guess what the other 5 are?. Do I say wolf dogs are ok. I stated that they should not be breed and sold, as it is truely yet another problem that could be avoided. As far as them all being dangerous, its like saying all German shepards are dangerous or all drinkers are drunks. Each are as individual as we human beings are. I have literally been around hundrends of dogs of all breeds and can tell you that in all breeds of dogs there are some that are dangerous.

I have been bitten 5 times by rescue dogs, 4 out of 5 times it was dogs that were under 30 lbs. The 5th was from a dog that was aready considered a biter (german shepard/lab mix)

Wolf dogs require special containment. our fencing is 10 ft high with a two ft dig proof base. our run is app 1/2 acre and kenneling is located within the perimeter, this all done to protect protect the animals from humans. It is completely enclosed with a concrete base, we have a mobil vet unit that comes to our home that cares for the animals. The wolf dogs come into our home, they play with our rat terriers and we have NEVER had a issue with them in the past 5 years we have had them

[Dixie Dude]

Most any dog can be dangerous if he is mistreated or trained that way.  Normally wolf dogs have the wild in them plus the dog which has no fear of humans, which makes them potentially dangerous.  I know people who have pit bulls which were raised with their kids and are as friendly as ever to anyone.  They just have strong jaws and can be trained to be dangerous.  If a Chihuahua had the size of a large dog they would probably be the meanist dog around.   

[a4beltfed2000]

amen,   Same with the terriers (should be TERRORS) we had one jack russel that we took in that would bite me in the backside if I turned my back on him, thats the only thing he would do, but it sure was an attention getter BTW I sprayed the back of a pair of old  pants with mace a couple of times and that broke him of it

[WylieKy]

I know a guy that is a meat processor in SC.  He did all of our camp's deer if we were too tuckered or had too many at the end of the day to do ourselves. (No walk-in + 50-60F at night, sometimes between 4 guys and we would have 12-15 deer down.)  Every year he said that he would have over 100 animals never claimed.  You can't sell venison in SC so he, his entire family, his friends, and the needy from his church always had venison.  

My grandfather taught me to never leave the woods without bringing something out.  Anytime I go to the woods I'll pick up trash.  Seems like no matter how remote you are, you'll run across an old bottle, plastic bag, or a can.  

[a4beltfed2000]

I wish more people would pick stuff up out in the woods and even along the road.  the place we bought a couple of years ago was literally used as a garbage dump by the previous owners. We have hauled truck loads of stuff off the property and every winter more comes up through the soil