Denied to Purchase Firearms...What now!

[Redtail1949]

I just got back from a local gun dealer where I went to purchase two pistols and one rifle. He ran the background check and I was denied!. They gave no reason but did give me a letter telling me that I must notify them in writting if I plan to appeal theire denial.

Christ I have purchased many firearms from dealers with no problems..I have no felonies no outstanding charges no domestic violence and on and on.

What the hell..is going on? Anyone else have this problem?

Any sugestions..?

[Rustyinfla]

  You were probably mixed up with someone else who just made their way into the system. Go through he appeals process. It should only happen one time then you'll be good to go forever.

[gypsyman]

Not sure if it's still in effect. Use to be, if you bought 2 handguns at the same time, the dealer had to fill out a special form and send it to the ATF. It wasn't unusual for them to knock on a persons door, and check to see if they still had them. Lots of straw purchaser's were caught that way. If it was me, I'ld write them a letter. When you get the ok, go back and buy 1 handgun and the rifle on the same yellow sheet. Give the dealer a few bucks to hold the other handgun, and go back a week or 10 days later and do the second handgun.  gypsyman

[DalesCarpentry]

I had a proplem a couple times a few years ago. It turnd out the DMV had my SS# wrong and there was a guy with my wrong number that should not own guns. When I renewed my DL and they corrected the SS# they had on file, I have not had a problem since. Dale

[Dee]

I just got back from a local gun dealer where I went to purchase two pistols and one rifle. He ran the background check and I was denied!. They gave no reason but did give me a letter telling me that I must notify them in writting if I plan to appeal theire denial.

Christ I have purchased many firearms from dealers with no problems..I have no felonies no outstanding charges no domestic violence and on and on.

What the hell..is going on? Anyone else have this problem?

Any sugestions..?

Hell Redtail 1949. Quit complainin. The government is just tryin to look out for ya! They know you don't need those guns, spend that money on social programs, or jet fuel so the pres can take his lady to the Letterman show.
I try another dealer, and I'd go thru the Freedom of Info act to see why if I was denied again. That my friend is BS.

[Cabin4]

What state do you live in?

[Dee]

At the present time, he seems to live in the state of "denial".

[Redtail1949]

live in Colorado..never had a problem before....might be that i was buying 2-45 auto and 1 22 rifle at the same time maybe a red flag or something.

[Dee]

live in Colorado..never had a problem before....might be that i was buying 2-45 auto and 1 22 rifle at the same time maybe a red flag or something.

Some red flag. I have bought 3 pistols, a rifle and a shotgun at one time fairly recently. No questions asked, or expected. Did the paperwork and walked out with the guns. The government is getting way to big for its britches.

[Redtail1949]

well it put a chill up my spine as i never had a problem till now.

[Foggy]

the multi sale of the same  typed of handguns  2 1911s 2 hi pwoer is a flag to aft that it is a potenial strwman purchase

[Redtail1949]

well that is what the dealer said..2 handguns and then the rifle  he commented the 2 45 autos probably made them think strawman sale....jeeeezsee.

[Redtail1949]

i have 9 kids and several grandkids..my thought was to have the pistols to leave to a couple of my boys and the rifle to be my grandsons first rifle.

[ncsurveyor]

...... he commented the 2 45 autos probably made them think strawman sale....jeeeezsee.

Apparently the BATF never seen a double holster rig.

Rookies........

[Redtail1949]

guess if i had them sent to a Mosque there would have been no problem.

[Dee]

the multi sale of the same  typed of handguns  2 1911s 2 hi pwoer is a flag to aft that it is a potenial strwman purchase

My purchase was 2 Smith Airweight 38s, one Smith Model 60, and one sawed off Remington 20 gauge. Strawman my azz. It is nothing more than government muscle flexing. Americans need to wake up.
It is no ones business what you or any other law abiding citizen with a clean record wants to buy. Even if you bought them as gifts, it is no one's business. Folks STILL BUY GUNS as gifts. It should not be tolerated if your record is clean, but alas, most Americans will not stand up for OTHER AMERICANS rights.

[Matt]

It should not be tolerated if your record is clean, but alas, most Americans will not stand up for OTHER AMERICANS rights.

And that my friend is a fact. It takes numbers to open eyes... but to get the numbers you got to stick together...

Matt

[45-70.gov]

i  am  in florida

the  ATF  has nothing to do with background checks

on  back ground check  they  only ask  hand gun long gun  or  both...never  how many
the  reason  is age requirement.... 18  for long gun    and   21  for  hand gun

i  have  filed 4 multible hand gun purchase forms  so  far
they  go  out  in the mail  that night.....after  the sale

i  had a family member  denied
appealed  it.........yes  no  mistake  it  was  his record...no mistaken identity
he  had multible felony arrest...but  no convictions

3 months later
FBI  sent him  a letter/diploma......stating  you may  now purcase firearms
i ran  another back ground check  and he past
it  took 5 months and he  now has a concealed permit
and  yes  he  does not get in trouble any more

but  they should run that check  over  for  free
i  think  you have a case  of mistaken  identity
don't  waste  your time and money  with   seperate purcases
unless  you just want to avoid  the reporting  of the miltable sales
one  copy mailed  to sheriff  and the other copy  to   ATF  i think

[bubba]

So go back an try to purchase just one and see what happens.  straw sale is not the problem. It may have to fo with puchasing a handgun and long gun at the same time.  If I am correct, you purchase one then in 3 days that is not on there if you go to buy another acording to my local dealer.  All they ask when they call it in is if it is a handgun or long gun not the quantity.  They get listed on the form after if approved.  Your information is crossed up with someone elses.  Usually it ends up with a delay if that is the case.  Whatever your info says is serious to deny it.  Unless you never plan to purchase another firearm, youbetter appeal it. 

[Oldtimer]

I was mixed up with a kid in Georgia and got letters demanding student loan repayment for a while.  I contacted the agency and they would not tell me the reason for the mix-up, but suggested it might be something like someone entering the Social Security wrong, like happened with Dale.  They used the address linked to my SS# and when we talked, asked whether anyone else had ever lived at our address.  The land has been in my wife's family since the late 1800's, so the guy in Georgia would have had to be about 140 years old.  I guess you're never too old to learn.

Find out the source of the error and have it corrected.  Better that you should have found out this way than at a traffic stop at 2am, which would be nowhere near as cordial.

[Mikey]

Go back and try to purchase one at a time.  I have had purchases denied/delayed once because the nics background checker was at lunch and another time because they were out Christmas shopping. 

I had one dealer tell me once I was denied when I was simply delayed.  Go back ad try purchsing one at a time.  JMTCW.

[45-70.gov]

this  is  off  the  ATF  website
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http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm

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F5) As a licensed dealer, must I advise ATF if I sell more than one handgun to an individual? [Back]

If you sell or dispose of more than one handgun to any non-licensee during a period of 5 consecutive business days, the sale must be reported on ATF Form 3310.4, Report of Multiple Sale or Other Disposition of Pistols and Revolvers, not later than the close of the business day on which you sold or disposed of the second handgun. The licensee must forward a copy of the Form 3310.4 to the ATF office specified thereon, and another copy must be forwarded to the State police or local law enforcement agency where the sale occurred. A copy of the Form 3310.4 also must be attached to the firearms transaction record, ATF Form 4473, documenting the sale or disposition of the second handgun.

A business day for purposes of reporting multiple sales of pistols or revolvers is a day that a licensee conducts business pursuant to the license, regardless of whether State offices are open. The application of the term “business day” is, therefore, distinguishable from the term “business day” as used in the NICS context. Example: A licensee conducts business only on Saturdays and Sundays, days on which State offices are not open. The licensee sells a pistol to an unlicensed person on a Saturday. If that same unlicensed person acquires another handgun the next day (Sunday), the following Saturday or Sunday, or the Saturday after the reporting requirement would be triggered, the subsequent acquisition of a handgun would have to be reported on a Form 3310.4 by the close of the day upon which the second or subsequent handgun was sold.

[18 U.S.C. 923(g)(3), 27 CFR 478.126a]
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i  have  had one  delayed for 3 weeks      another 3 months

a chinese  guy delayed because his last name was first....2 hours...he  had a  CCW permit   too

[SHOOTALL]

Don't know why it is such a problem for them to inform you as to why they denied you . In Va. where I live the State Police do the check . If you are denied as I was . I ask the sales clerk if there was a phone # i could call and the state form had it on the back. I left the store and called . It was quite funny as i got a LT. filling in for the ladies who were at lunch . The clerk had given me a number to use to ID the transaction . Instead of putting me on hold he laid the phone down and i could hear him "checking " I hear him say that's BS and he picks the phone up and says it will have gone thru. before you get back to the store . I ask what happened , he said some felon had used my SS number in AZ. in a credit card scam . so anything involving my SS number was flaged .
Sometimes its not so political just a system working . I was alerted and had credit checked it was OK . the guy was in jail and i got the gun .

[GRIMJIM]

This was 20 + years ago but I had my gun owning priviledges revoked because of something stupid I did as a kid. I had to go through an appeal process and got them reinstated. To this day I get delays sometimes so I always call first to make sure it went through.

[Dee]

This was 20 + years ago but I had my gun owning priviledges revoked because of something stupid I did as a kid. I had to go through an appeal process and got them reinstated. To this day I get delays sometimes so I always call first to make sure it went through.

GRIMJIM, not to argue, but you never had any gun owning priviledges to be revoked. You gun own RIGHTS! were revoked. I don't know what you did and don't care, but only GOD HIMSELF can revoke my RIGHTS. Not some $2.00 politician like Shumer or McCain. JMO

[Redtail1949]

The FFL Dealer did make a notation on the Form that i was purchasing  a total of 3 Firearms...I wonder if that did it!

I sent the letter informing them that I was going to appeal this morning. The said that they would reply inwithin 5 days as to why I was denied and include instructions for me to follow on the appeal.

Christ i am 60 years old and clean record ...just what the heck I needed a bunch of red tape and months of misery.

Thanks to all for your replies

[SHOOTALL]

GOOD LUCK !