Thanks for all the replys. I have loaded with IMR 4895 for many years and used it from 222 to 458 Win mag and have a good supply of it. I am going to try a few loads and see what developes, but I will definatly pick up some IMR 4320 to try also. Basicly I am punching paper now and have plenty of 100gr, 120gr, 140gr, Sierra,Nosler, Speer, & Hornady bullets and a bunch of Berger 130VLDs and the Bergers are what I am more interested in playing with at 1,2,3 & 500 yard ranges.olddudeone