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Offline Victor3

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More TV artillery
« on: June 07, 2009, 07:36:17 PM »
 Anyone know what 60's TV show featured this black powder golf ball mortar?





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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2009, 12:32:24 AM »
THe picture tubes I remember from the late 50's and early 60's were ROUND.

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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2009, 01:34:47 AM »
Quote from: Cat Whisperer on June 08, 2009, 12:32:24 AM
THe picture tubes I remember from the late 50's and early 60's were ROUND.

 ;D

 Uhhh... I took this pic slightly more recently.

 I rekun if I don't get a digital converter box right quick I won't be watching round, square or any other shape teevee.
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2009, 07:08:57 AM »
Victor, BY JOVE, I THINK I'VE GOT IT (now, how do I get rid of it?), this frame is taken from the original "Star Trek" series, it's the episode where Kirk is put (by brainiac aliens) on a desolate planet (with no weapons) with one of those lizard-type aliens, and he has to find a way of defeating the lizard man (whose skin looks like it was made out of a diver's old rubber wet suit). He then goes searching and comes up with all the makings of black powder, fashions a mortar, loads it with the powder, a projectile (a sharp pointed black diamond of some sort), and then proceeds to fire the diamond right through the rubber wet suit, and into the murderous lizard's heart. ;D 
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2009, 07:37:57 AM »
Quote from: Boom J on June 08, 2009, 07:08:57 AM
Victor, BY JOVE, I THINK I'VE GOT IT (now, how do I get rid of it?), this frame is taken from the original "Star Trek" series, it's the episode where Kirk is put (by brainiac aliens) on a desolate planet (with no weapons) with one of those lizard-type aliens, and he has to find a way of defeating the lizard man (whose skin looks like it was made out of a diver's old rubber wet suit). He then goes searching and comes up with all the makings of black powder, fashions a mortar, loads it with the powder, a projectile (a sharp pointed black diamond of some sort), and then proceeds to fire the diamond right through the rubber wet suit, and into the murderous lizard's heart. ;D 

No, that episode, "Arena", was on a desert planet.  [yt=425,350]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/IDD3-2_wLR8&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/IDD3-2_wLR8&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/yt]
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2009, 09:01:26 AM »
Thanks Subdjoe, I stand corrected. I forgot just how slow that lizard moved, he should have sunned himself on the top of a rock for an hour or so, and once his blood got warmed up he probably would have had enough speed to get his claws around the captain's neck.
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2009, 09:54:16 AM »
The mortar in that Star Trek episode was also made from something that looked like bamboo.  It was wood looking not metal.

Other than that I am clueless.  Or at least that is what my wife keeps telling me.
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2009, 12:26:05 AM »
 "Would you believe...."





 The episode was titled "I shot 86 today." The Chief assigned Max & 99 to find out how KAOS was destroying test rockets in flight using "nuclear golf balls." They even described the launcher as a mortar (no surprize, as Don Adams was a Marine who fought at Guadalcanal). Max destroyed the nuclear golf ball by driving a magnetic golf ball which hit KAOS's ball.
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2009, 06:10:17 AM »
Victor, does this mean I didn't win nuthin? Story of my life; DOH!
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2009, 12:47:01 AM »
Quote from: Boom J on June 09, 2009, 06:10:17 AM
Victor, does this mean I didn't win nuthin? Story of my life; DOH!

 You win an A for effort ;)

 Also, I have to thank you for bringing up that Star Trek episode. Looking at the youtube video I recognized the fight scene as being filmed at a place I'm very familiar with called Vasques Rocks here in CA. A search revealed that the new 2009 Star Trek movie also has a scene filmed there.

 I'm gonna have to go there and find the rock where Kirk was scooping powder into his pre-1899 design black powder bamboo mortar (which obviously didn't meet the one caliber thick chamber recommendation).
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2009, 08:18:19 AM »
I doubt that the "powder" Kirk used would have had much power.  I don't really recall the details of the episode but I doubt the "powder" was milled very much and it wouldn't have worked unless the components were mixed quite closely.
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2009, 10:15:28 AM »
Yeah George, it looks like the Captain's mixture is a little rich in sulfur content.:D  Did anyone notice how Kirk braced the breech of the bamboo bombard on the rock while holding it in his hands as it fires, and then in the next scene he's laying there dazed, with the blown in half bombard laying next to him, but he doesn't show so much as a match burn on his hands, arms, or clothing? Ahhh, the magic of television!
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2009, 11:18:06 AM »
Quote from: GGaskill on June 10, 2009, 08:18:19 AM
I doubt that the "powder" Kirk used would have had much power.  I don't really recall the details of the episode but I doubt the "powder" was milled very much and it wouldn't have worked unless the components were mixed quite closely.

Hey!  It shows him grinding it between two rocks!  That is milling.  Kind of.  maybe.  of a sort....
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2009, 12:12:19 PM »
Ahhh, the magic of television!

Yeah, the director tells the special effects guy it's supposed to go boom and the SE guy makes it go boom whether the action justifies it or not.  That's Hollywood.
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2009, 01:00:40 AM »
 Boom J - Kirk's uniform was made from high-tech fabric that don't get blowed up. He also used high-SPF space lotion that protected him from the powder burns.

 And here I thought all this stuff was common knowledge...
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2009, 01:19:59 AM »
Quote from: Victor3 on June 11, 2009, 01:00:40 AM
Boom J - Kirk's uniform was made from high-tech fabric that don't get blowed up. He also used high-SPF space lotion that protected him from the powder burns.

 And here I thought all this stuff was common knowledge...

At least one of those was classified infomration!   ;D
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2009, 06:42:11 AM »
One must always remember Kirk always cheated death, even when blowing up bamboo cannon.......
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2009, 07:04:45 AM »
But it was an allien planet.  who is to say that that planet does not grow a type of bamboo that has the weight of balsa wood with the strength of steel.  That the gravity of the two moons/ suns/ planets that revolve around this planet do not cause the fibers of the tree to grow......  OK enoough space geek.
Hey were the first cannons not hollowed out trees?  and if the poder charge is light and the projectile loose fitting and allows the pressure to release. before it can over whelm the material the barrel is made from it will work.  You may not get any velocity but it will shoot.
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2009, 11:09:10 AM »
His opponent was not killed, it may have just fainted from the smoke and noise.  ;)
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2009, 05:33:35 AM »
Quote from: Artilleryman on June 11, 2009, 11:09:10 AM
His opponent was not killed, it may have just fainted from the smoke and noise.  ;)

Norm, looking at this lethargic lizard, it may well be that he just decided to lay down and catch himself some Z's. :D
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2009, 05:52:48 AM »
Okay now, Kirk made the mortar and powder, killed the lizard, and didn't get hurt.
Did he kiss a girl at the end?   ;D
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2009, 06:25:54 AM »
Didn't kill the lizard, proved humanity better than murdering brutes, was allowed to live by alien
higher life form so was lizard at Kirk's request all lived happily ever after in the big universe......

No he didn't get to kiss the girl at the end...... and no other cannons involved in this episode.
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2009, 08:21:04 PM »
Okay... but if I had to chose (cannon or "phaser") I'd probably have to pick a "level 2 phaser".  I definitely be the only guy around that had one of THOSE!

good thing Kirk didn't get caught by that lizard... Denny Crane wouldn't be Denny Crane if played by anyone else...


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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2009, 05:13:16 AM »
You guys are  simply amazing; out of your minds; what recall. Now I am convinced more than ever that I haven't missed anything by not having a TV. Is it from inhaling smoke?  Gun smoke?::)
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2009, 06:42:06 AM »
Quote from: thelionspaw on June 15, 2009, 05:13:16 AM
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 Now I am convinced more than ever that I haven't missed anything by not having a TV.
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I can't think of anything you've missed.  But then, I don't watch it either.    ;D

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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2009, 06:53:03 AM »
Quote from: thelionspaw on June 15, 2009, 05:13:16 AM
You guys are  simply amazing; out of your minds; what recall. Now I am convinced more than ever that I haven't missed anything by not having a TV. Is it from inhaling smoke?  Gun smoke?::)

Grew up with it as a kid...... But you can't escape.....

you can now watch them on the internet until your mind turns to slush ... no tv needed.....



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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2009, 12:57:16 PM »
When I was a kid, TV wasn't around. we had a Philco with a glass eye. A neighbour had a 10" TV.

I was raised outside of the house in the woods, marsh and at the bayside.

Got a dish back in '92 and kept it for 6 months. The black box went to the transfer station compactor and the dish was turned sideways, aimed straight up and filled with water. People still ask me, "What's that?".  I tell them, "TV is for the birds". ;D 

If a movie has a cannon in it, I've rented it or own it.

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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2009, 03:27:40 PM »
But you can't escape.....

That sure seems to be the case.  They just put big screens on the wall in two of the company lunch rooms where I work.  Always on CNN for their worthless propaganda.
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Re: More TV artillery
« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2009, 07:47:24 PM »
Quote from: GGaskill on June 15, 2009, 03:27:40 PM
But you can't escape.....

That sure seems to be the case.  They just put big screens on the wall in two of the company lunch rooms where I work.  Always on CNN for their worthless propaganda.

I like watching CNN & MSNBC.  Know your enemy. 
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« Reply #29 on: June 17, 2009, 03:08:26 PM »
"CNN & MSNBC"

Speaking of lethargic lizards... ::)


Sneak over when no one's watching (should be easy with CNN) and switch them to Fox News.
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