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Offline Antietamgw

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Re: long range, low recoil, deer caliber?
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2009, 11:56:37 AM »
I've never had to shoot stuff that breathes that far off but there is alot of cover where I hunt. If factory ammo availability is a real concern for you, think about .270 Win.  It's a mighty common chambering. If recoil is a concern, get a PAST Recoil Shield, they do a good job even from field positions and don't hurt your ears  :).  Save your brass, and anybody elses' that leaves it laying on the ground.
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Re: long range, low recoil, deer caliber?
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2009, 12:50:06 AM »
Be careful about a .22 centerfire for deer, it may not be legal everywhere!
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Re: long range, low recoil, deer caliber?
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2009, 03:31:19 AM »
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6.8 SPC might do, not sure what kind of down range capability it has.

I've been looking at it for a short range deer round and it looks to me like it would be best under 150 yds and 200yds max distance. Probably have to be careful about bullet selection. Most .277 big game bullets are heavier and designed around 270 Win/wsm/wtby velocities. 

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Re: long range, low recoil, deer caliber?
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2009, 04:00:35 AM »
Here's and idea, take a look at the 30 BR (assuming you handload).  It uses about 30% less powder than a 308 and pushes a 125 gr bullet to within 130 FPS of a 308.  It is competing very well against other LR cartridges on the lines out to 300 (big time accurate), kicks A LOT less than a 308 (feels like a souped up 243 to me), and is very easy on the barrel.  I used to do a little BR before discovering plates and pins, and a couple of guys use this cartridge at 300.  If you are using it for deer hunting only, it'll last thru several generations if maintained, and lay those whitetails down way out there if you are shooting those Nosler 125 BT at 3050.

I bought a 7mm 08 for the kids, and really wish that I'd have bought a TC custom chamber 30 BR instead. 
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Re: long range, low recoil, deer caliber?
« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2009, 04:15:35 AM »
6.5X55 ?
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Re: long range, low recoil, deer caliber?
« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2009, 04:18:57 AM »
PS on the 30BR.  It is usually set up with a pretty slow twist (1:17-1:18).  The 1:17 should stablilize a 135 gr bullet, but no more.  But, a boat tail 125 at 400 yards still delivers over 1000 ft lbs of energy.  That is WAY more than a 50 cal round ball at 1/4th the distance, and gozillions of deer have been killed with those since the inception of BP.
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Re: long range, low recoil, deer caliber?
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2009, 03:39:42 AM »
Barnes X-bullets are great for low recoil loads.  It allows you to shoot light-for-caliber bullets that still hold together and pound through a deer.  Any regular ol' .30-06 or .270 can make a dandy 300 yard deer rifle with less recoil than standard weight loadings.  I have also done this loading 125 gr X-bullets in the 30-30 contender carbine years ago, (though I always considered that marginal at 200+ yards. )  I load a fairly light charge of 4895 under a 130 gr X in my wife's .308 and it is really nice to shoot. She does not take long shots, so it is on the mild side...probably about like a factory .300 savage load.
 
The newer TSX bullets seem to shoot more accurately in more guns than the early X-bullets.

If you want to shoot 300 yards, you are going to have to burn some powder one way or another.  Not necessarily any free lunch with that.  A heavier rifle is nice for steady holding as well as recoil dampening. 
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Re: long range, low recoil, deer caliber?
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2009, 05:43:56 AM »
Our local Wal Mart is stocking 308 ammo. Just got two boxes of Remington 150 grain 308 ammo for under $15.00  each!!!! Not sure I can even reload it for that low price. They had more in stock  and more coming. This is core lock ammo. The 308 is a great all around caliber, I shoot it both in rifle and pistol. If you hand load, try some 120 or 130 grainers, lighter recoil and fun to shoot at long ranges.
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Re: long range, low recoil, deer caliber?
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2009, 10:00:12 AM »
The 6.8 SPC is very low recoil and good to 200 yards.

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