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Offline Country Boy

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Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« on: May 07, 2009, 02:52:26 PM »
Can a scope be put on it and what calibers did it come in ? I found one for less than 500. Is that a decent price ?
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2009, 02:53:47 PM »
Forgot, same question for a Savage 219 ?
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2009, 04:16:15 PM »
all three of my #3's have scope mounts on the barrel
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 04:27:18 PM »
.45-70, .22 Hornet, 30-40 Krag, .30-06, .375 Winchester, .223, and .44 Mag.
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 05:19:35 PM »
You may have to resort to installing Weaver bases, since some #3 do not have provisions, nor holes drilled for scope mounting.
This rifle is a 375Win and has a modified leaver and #1 wood.

The scope is a Leo 1.5-5 with Burris Signature med rings the rear base is Weaver #57 fitted over the action, the front is a #46 but subject to change depending on barrel diameter.

Both bases need holes to be drilled and tapped to suit. I developed a hand load with 225gr pointed Hornady bullets and highly compressed powder charge of H322 which will group 3 shots 1-3/4" at 250 yards. Which is by the way the sight-in range. It drops deer like hit with sledge hammer.

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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2009, 12:14:27 AM »
The #3 is about the only Ruger rifle that I like.  The #1 wood makes it too heavy.
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2009, 01:01:22 PM »
$500 is an excellent buy, today, for an original condition Ruger #3 - as they are somewhat collectable, and in demand.

Any Savage 219 found for less than $300 is likewise a steal, IMHO.

As Fred posted above, the early .45-70 #3's barrels were not factory D/T'd for scope mounts - either the mounts available from Ruger or Weaver/Leupold/etc.

Many Savage 219's have rimfire-type scope mount grooving, which isn't a problem on Hornets - but usually need a recoil stop installed for the .30-30, or any heftier rechamberings of the others (.25-20/.32-20)

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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2009, 01:07:19 PM »
I have one in 45-70 and it is a great little carbine, with the 300 grain JHP rounds it shoots point of aim out to 100 yards with the open sights and point of aim to 150 yards with the 405's  they are about 3" high at 100 yards.  I think the slower bullet has more to do with that.
I don't think I would ever scope it.  i may look to stick a reciever peep sight on it.
Depending on the Caliber I would pay $500 for another one.
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2009, 04:06:43 PM »
Swampman.
You must be physicly debilitated that you cant handle a rifle like mine that weighs 7lbs- 12oz with a scope.  6lbs-12 without a scope. :o

How much does a standard #3 weigh without a scope?
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2009, 05:01:14 PM »
I have a #1 buttstock on my 45/70 and will have an Alex Henry forend if I can ever find one.
They may weight a few more oz. but if so I haven't noticed.  With the 45/70 a few more oz.
might help.  I also have a Leupold 3X in Weaver mts. on it.
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2009, 05:49:46 PM »
Here's one of my #3's. It's a 22 Hornet with a Weaver scope and Conetrol mounts and rings.
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2009, 12:43:41 AM »
Quote from: Fred M on May 08, 2009, 04:06:43 PM
Swampman.
You must be physicly debilitated that you cant handle a rifle like mine that weighs 7lbs- 12oz with a scope.  6lbs-12 without a scope. :o

How much does a standard #3 weigh without a scope?

Less
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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2009, 12:27:27 PM »
Hank08 - A #3 forend has enough "meat', so that it can easily be rasped down to the Alex Henry profile.

I did it to a used .45-70 #3 I bought several years ago that had an aftermarket pistol-grip buttstock, and the issue forend.

After reworking the buttstock's geometry to classic lines, I altered the #3 forend to match the AH forend of one of my #1's.

It WAS handy, I have to admit - to have the two forends side-by-side for comparison, when working on it !

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Re: Ruger # 3 can it be scoped ?
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2009, 05:34:47 PM »
Ranger44, I've been thinking about doing that.  I've even bought some walnut that's a close match to my buttstock for that purpose but i'd still like to find one.
Ruger will sell one but you have to send them a rifle that originally had one and they will fit one to it.
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