Before the cold snap hit here in Ut, me and my retriever Kimba managed to take 67 birds- mostly jump shooting. Limeted 6 times and only got 7 the last day. It was great fun. I managed to get 3 doubles in the mix, and had a nice kill percentage using my 12 ga nova with full choke and your basic 7 1/2 field load winchester 2 3/4". I love the nova, but really hope to have a 20ga by next season as jump shooting with a 12ga on dove is not as hard as I expected it to be. I let my friend talk me out of a 20 and into a 12 as it is more versitile and I do intendt to hunt ducks in a few weeks. As it turns out, I think I would be more happy with a 20 on doves and sacrifice a little distance in the duck hunting, but I will let you know how the ducks go in a bit.