Author Topic: Hammer Problem: Transfer Bar Issue?? Broken?? (Read 1008 times)

breakthru62 · « **on:** February 05, 2009, 05:08:20 PM »

So I was out shooting my .223 (varmit stock with fluted barrel) and things were going
great..........until.............

I pulled the trigger, no fire. I pulled the round out and there was not a firing pin indent.
So I start checking out how the hammer was falling and it's not hitting the firing pin or whatever,
it should be. It's falls about an 1/8" short of its normal resting point. I
can see a long rectangular piece (transfer bar???) laying on the hammer in side the reciever. It was obvisously a
loose part and shouldn't have been were it was. I sorta wiggled it around and it dissappeared it the
reciever. That was the end of the range trip.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
What can I do? I know I have to start digging, but what should I look for?
Any links on how to and what the trigger group should look like?

Thanks for any and all help.

Scott

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2009, 06:06:18 PM »

See Broken Transfer Bar in the FAQs and Help sticky, you can order a new one and a spare from Brownell's or send the rifle into H&R for repair. Download Perklo's trigger hone info from the link in the FAQs also if you want to fix it yourself, it shows complete R&R of the trigger group.

Tim

breakthru62 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2009, 06:39:49 PM »

Thanks Tim.......Going to check it out now. Many thanks.

Westbound · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2009, 04:04:47 AM »

This happened to me two weeks ago.
I pulled mine apart and was able to fix (southern engineer) the transfer bar.

I was nervous about taking the gun apart, but if you follow the instructions, it is really easy. pay attention to the part about making a slave pin for re-assmbly. It can be done without a slave pin... but you will be yelling explicit words

I also ordered the replacement part from Brownells, because I know my "fix" will fail at some point.
While you are in there, might as well do a trigger job

zoner · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:29:56 AM »

my hornet came NIB with a bad transfer bar...the pivot between the transfer bar and lifter was so loose that if you elevated the bore(as if you were shooting uphill) the transfer bar would flop straight back toward the hammer,blocking the hammer from coming forward.the part i bought from brownell's was a much higher quality than the one that came in the gun new....

Buster95 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:45:42 AM »

Is this a common problem with handi rifles

I Just ordered a Buffalo Classic

quickdtoo · « **Reply #6 on:** February 06, 2009, 11:56:00 AM »

Too common sometimes, the transfer bar is one of the recommended spare parts to have on hand, just in case. I'll tell ya though, in my experience, once you have spare parts for something, you may never need it, I've yet to have to replace one, probably cuz I have a spare!!

Murphy usually only strikes when your defenses are down!! $:-\$ I've had a spare for my utility trailer, both boat trailers and my travel trailer, never had a flat on any of them in the last 20-30yrs!! But you can bet your life if I forget the spare or it goes flat, I'd get a flat for sure!!

Tim

yukondog · « **Reply #7 on:** February 06, 2009, 12:35:01 PM »

Mine fell apart about a week ago went to FAQ and found the info I needed. I was lucky I found all the parts inside the recever. Now the only problem I have is the barrel release is verry stif to operate,you can still open the barrel but something is not right any help would be great.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2009, 02:47:12 PM »

Either the barrel release isn't installed right or the latch spring isn't installed right.

Tim

Buster95 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 06, 2009, 03:19:07 PM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on February 06, 2009, 11:56:00 AM

Too common sometimes, the transfer bar is one of the recommended spare parts to have on hand, just in case.

What are the other parts can you give me a short list? Where do you buy these parts? Brownells?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** February 06, 2009, 04:25:56 PM »

They're listed in the FAQs and Help sticky, firing pin and spring, hammer spring.

Tim

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/schematics/schemmfg.aspx?step=2&mfgid=6&mfgname=H&R%C2%AE

yukondog · « **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2009, 08:17:33 AM »

Your right Tim the barrel release was in wrong.Put it back in right works prefect,took it to the range today shot great. Thanks for the help Tim.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2009, 08:44:03 AM »

You're welcome, glad ya got it fixed.

Tim

Buster95 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2009, 09:56:05 AM »

Hey Tim 24600 posts!!!!!!!!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2009, 12:34:48 PM »

Yup, you're right on my heels!!

Tim

breakthru62 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 17, 2009, 07:29:35 PM »

Hey Tim,

I went to Brownells and looked for any part with the title "transfer bar" and could not find anything.

Here is the link: http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/schematics/schemmfg.aspx?schemid=676&m=6&mn=H&model=SB2+Handi-Rifle%2fH%26R+Ultra+

Could you please help a fella out some more?

Thanks for any and all help

Scott

quickdtoo · « **Reply #16 on:** April 17, 2009, 08:00:55 PM »

You want the striker and lifter assembly.

Tim

troy5775 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 18, 2009, 03:27:32 AM »

http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=280500A&chrSuperSKU=280500&MC=

breakthru62 · « **Reply #18 on:** April 18, 2009, 08:07:59 AM »

Thank you Tim and Troy and everyone. I tried to download the "thingy" in the sticky section, but it didn't work out for me........thats why I couldn't investigate the parts I needed further. I'm not that lazy.

Anyhow, I'm gonna try and figure out what I did wrong with the download.

Again, thanks a bunch guys.

Scott

quickdtoo · « **Reply #19 on:** April 18, 2009, 08:17:54 AM »

Check your email Scott, I sent Perko's downloads to you.

Tim

OR-E-Gun Bill · « **Reply #20 on:** April 18, 2009, 08:54:29 AM »

Sounds like someone might be blessed with a slow dialup connection like me. It took about 10-15 minutes just for part one...
Got it saved now on disc.

Bill

troy5775 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:44:30 AM »

Here is a breakdown for the pardner, I believe most of the parts interchange with the exception of the firing pin.

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=2190zPARDNER%20-%20SINGLE%20SHOT

breakthru62 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 19, 2009, 06:57:35 AM »

Again, thank you guys. I'm gonna check out the links and the emails.

Have a nice Sunday.

Tim, I live across the river from you and hear that we are in for nicer weather!!!!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #23 on:** April 19, 2009, 11:02:52 AM »

Yes sir, great turkey huntin weather, indeed!!!

I'm in Vancouver, where are you, Scott?

Tim