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Offline MikeC

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Buffalo Classic 45-70
« on: January 30, 2009, 06:05:55 PM »
I was browsing in the local Gander Mountain and saw a buffalo Classic 45-70. I really like the look & feel. Is the receiver on this rifle the H&R SB2? Can it be fitted with other barrels from H&R?  If I get it, I think I will have to but just buy brass and reload since the ammo they had in stock was $40 for 20 rounds.

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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2009, 07:53:35 PM »
Yes, the BC frame is an SB2, same as Handi or Ultra, it's just case colored. As long as it's an H&R and not a Wesson & Harrington, H&R1871 will fit it with accessory barrels.

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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2009, 03:56:30 AM »
Hardest part of the buffalo classic is the sights,you can go with barrel mounted"about $200.00" or try to mount a tang sight in the wood"$60.00-$400.00+". I think the one supplied is not that great but mounting in the wood my not be the best way to go,
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 06:08:47 AM »
I have a buffalo Classic and love it. 
I've also purchased a used 270 barrel, but haven't got to the range to fire that barrel yet.

Reloading will let you realize the potential of the 45-70. Factory loads are underpowered... a lot!
I would check other places for factory ammo.  $40 sounds like a premium ammo.  I can buy Remington factory loads for $30 and Hornady Leverevolution for $28 at Cabela's.
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 05:46:40 AM »
For sights you can also try to find Springfield Trapdoor rifle or carbine sights.  Many will be under the $200 the Smith Wesson and Harrington Buffalo Classic Long Range sights cost.  The additional expense and aversion to marring the firearm will come from having to drill and tap a hole to make the Springfield Trapdoor sights fit.
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2009, 12:33:23 PM »
How about the other way?  I have a standard Handi SB2 frame, I would like to get a 45/70 barrel.  Will the B.C. accesorybarrel/$114 dollars work?  Will it look stupid with the standard forearm/butt?
Or do I need to get the standard 45/70 barrel/$90 dollars?
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2009, 12:52:23 PM »
They'll fit the BC barrel to a Handi frame too. You can order the BC stock or forend or any other stock you want, they'll all work together.

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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2009, 12:05:23 PM »
So... do I have this straight?  The B.C. barrel will fit the SB2 frame but I need to buy the B.C. stock set?  And is there much difference in accuracy between the standard contour 45/70 barrel and the B.C. barrel?
Thanx Quick
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 12:24:37 PM »
No you don't have to buy the BC stock set any stock will fit any other handie It just looks a little odd to me with the long barrels and short fore arm but it works just fine, I don't think there is much difference in how they shoot, I've shot both and I just think the 22" model is handier for the hunting I do. BCs are real nice looking rifles thou. But IMHO buy the 22" and use the money saved for ammo.

BTW Handies are kinda like Lego... I am changing stocks forearms and barrels around all the time, That is one of the reasons I like these rifles so much.  I have learned so much from theses rifles and this site that I have moved into a lot more work on all of my other rifles. 8)
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2009, 12:37:15 PM »
I'm a newbie, what are the pros and cons of this rifle, does the new models come with a plastic trigger guard, any "design"  (or weakness) defaults like problem with the forestock, etc... I'm interested in this rifle I have ordered one, so any advice will be welcome. THANKS.

Just one last question it is expensive to reload 45/70? What is the average cost per round?
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009, 01:02:39 PM »
All NEFs/ H&Rs come with plastic trigger guards, But we are working on that, Or rather handie GURU Quick is.  I can't give you a cost rundown of reloading because I am afraid to look at how much I spend on reloading,(Good thing I am single.) BUT the .45-70 is very easy to reload for and their are about a bazillion combanations you can try. From .38 special kinda loads up to Ouch did I really need to shoot that kinda loads and yes the Handie can handle those.

This rifle is tough they don't fail mecanically often but some of them take some tinkering to get shooting the way you may want it to.

They are relatively easy to work on and fun to customize and tinker with, I think thats why most of us like them. Just my thoughts thou your milage may vary.  Enjoy Bob 8)
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2009, 01:19:56 PM »
My reloading cost per round is 65 cents.  This does not include the brass, because I scrounged that up from my factory loads.
That comes up to a box of 20 for $13.82.
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 01:40:32 PM »
Here's a handi reloading cost calculator...

Tim

http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 01:58:18 PM »
Depends on what you reload it with.  I have a 405 hollow base and 500grn mold from Lee.  It seems to like them both.  The problem with reloading is there are an incredible number of combination's.  You can load down with unique and get lots of loads from a pound or you can load with 4895 and get few loads per pound.  Personally, I like the unique loads because it means more shots per dollar.  With unique and handcast bullets I can shoot for under 10 cents per shot.  You can also load it up to the point that it kills on one end and maims on the other (and kills your wallet, or at least mine, in the process).
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Re: Buffalo Classic 45-70
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 02:00:14 PM »
THANKS guys for all the information I really appreciate that.  ;)
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