Author Topic: What ammo to stock up (Read 4471 times)

burntmuch · « **on:** January 19, 2009, 10:00:38 AM »

Ive got 8 different calibers in the safe. Reloading supplies for almost all of them. Theres no way I can stock up on all of them for a SHTF or TEOTWAWKI. So Im stocking up on the following

22lr 500 or so
223 for my rem 700. Right now I ve got 160 win 45 grain JHP would like 500 or so Wanted an AR but didnt work out.
45acp 500 or so
If I dont run out of money 357 mag 200 or so

Any thoughts Jay

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2009, 11:03:58 AM »

All good choces but I'd go with about five times your numbers.

efremtags · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:55:18 PM »

Col Cooper who I have the utmost respect for stated something like, if you are not military actively seeking conflict, 200 rounds ammo is likely enough for a typical conflict. After 200 rounds, one of 2 things will happen, either your attacker will be dead or you will be.

It depends on your goal. If you are looking for self protection, 200 for a defense weapon is a reasonable minimum.
If it is long term disaster survival, (weeks or a month) that same 200 is stil a pretty good number.

I have known several people who hoarded thousands of rounds of ammo for each of their guns. Two of these guys died of old age, with thousands of rounds in their vault.Stock pileing for stockpiling won't get you anywhere.

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2009, 05:15:44 PM »

Just reload and stock up on powder and componets. DP

torpedoman · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2009, 05:24:31 PM »

just how much ammo can you carry once you have passed that point it is fairly useless there isnt a whole lot that cant be taken with a 22 or 22 mag in a shtf you wont want to be shooting a lot of big calibers and drawing a lot of attention to were you are at.You will hut out an area and be required to move with the game so just how much can you carry?

burntmuch · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2009, 05:31:06 PM »

Maybe SHTF doesnt happen over night. Maybe 6 mths of people trying to break into my house. All the police are laid off , National guard spread too thin. Who knows

Graybeard · « **Reply #6 on:** January 20, 2009, 07:04:47 PM »

Doesn't sound to me like your stocking up at all but rather are darn nearly out of ammo. Man you need to get in gear and buy some. Ya should have at least 10,000 rounds of .22LR as a minimum and 500 for any deer rifles plus at least 5000 to 10,000 for the self defense .223 ARs. That would be a good start on stocking up I reckon so long as you've got plenty of reloading components laying around too.

burntmuch · « **Reply #7 on:** January 20, 2009, 11:44:28 PM »

Ive got enough components for couple hundred rounds for each of 35 whelen , 7 mag , 357 max. plus a couple hundred more of 223. Whats a good bulk 223 round?.

Swampman · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:43:57 AM »

You can never have too many .22s. A 20 guage is a must.

Foxxtrot · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2009, 02:42:11 AM »

I shoot 30.06, .22, 30-30, .223 and a 20 gauge. I would say 2,000 to 10,000 rounds would do you fine for a lengthy conflict, but I don't think we would come to that "lengthy" part. Food, water, and defined living quarters with the ability to fight and live inside for a solid week and longer. We don't live in thick walled cabins with shooting lanes, burms, and kill zones anymore. We have houses that are right beside one another, thin skinned, and will burn down in hours. Unless you live out in the sticks and have the above mentioned, you would have some troubles with long term survival. I think shock and mental distress would play a heavy toll on most American if SHTF for longer than six months. People are too comfortable and expect a certain way of life now.

Swampman · « **Reply #10 on:** January 21, 2009, 02:42:42 AM »

& .38 Special

Swampman · « **Reply #11 on:** January 21, 2009, 02:43:26 AM »

& 12 gauge

hillbill · « **Reply #12 on:** January 22, 2009, 03:51:46 PM »

ammo stocking is a good idea i think, but not for the same reasons most people think it is. i agree with a previous poster, if you shoot a couple hundred rounds in defense of yourself the law of averages says that by then you are dead or wounded.that just goes without saying.you can store it up for survival situations as in shooting food, however 100 rnds a year or so will take care of that.unless you a really bad shot.where your greatest profit will come from is when it is hard to get and can be traded for just about anything else you need.the black market or just trading it to your neighbors for a chicken or a pig or lumber or whatever will be where you will be glad you had it.very few other things you can buy will last as long or be as valuable in the coming years.

DES · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2009, 08:51:33 AM »

You may have waited too long to stock up, I stopped by the local Wally World yesterday and they were completely out of all .22RF. They had very little handgun ammo or rifle ammo, had plenty of 12 ga though. The clerk said they were having trouble keeping it in stock. I've also noticed a lot of reloading components are difficult to find too.

45-70.gov · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2009, 09:04:19 AM »

10 thousand 22
most for the money and easyest to trade away if SHTF
also most fun when nothing happens

500 of every thing else is plenty

where is your shot gun a must have
stock up when ever found discounted

i think of these perchases as a hedge against inflation
a more likely senario

hillbill · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2009, 01:48:27 PM »

i agree with 45-70 that most of my ammo purchases are basically a hedge against inflation. i went to a gun show today and again bulk 223 and 7.62 and everything else had raised since the last show i was at about a month ago.the show i went to was in Joplin mo, a usually small and lightly attended show but was packed to the door and even more exhibitors than usual.i was very impressed.best show Ive been to in Joplin in a long time.

jrfrmn · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2009, 05:16:59 AM »

Which 22 LR ammo, hollow points or solid jacket? Which ones are best for large game . Which to stay away from, or does it not matter?

FLNT4EVR · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2009, 07:31:09 AM »

Burntmuch my feelings about using ammo for barter..........I won't do it, I have a bad feeling about arming someone who I may have to face again later on.

tn_junk · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2009, 07:53:32 AM »

I'm getting real careful about who I tell what I have stockpiled, and where it is stockpiled at.
Maybe I am paranoid, but I ain't expecting anything good to come for us "gun people" in the next 8 years or so.

alan

tn_junk · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2009, 07:56:25 AM »

Quote from: jrfrmn on February 02, 2009, 05:16:59 AM

Which 22 LR ammo, hollow points or solid jacket? Which ones are best for large game . Which to stay away from, or does it not matter?

Both.
I use the HP's for little stuff and the solids for larger things. If your gun will handle them, get some Aguila 60 grain SSS. They do a numbr on bigger things (or so I've heard

) and are fairly quiet.

alan

Graybeard · « **Reply #20 on:** February 02, 2009, 08:01:36 AM »

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get some Aguila 60 grain SSS.

I keep seeing folks recommending others buy this stuff but I have to wonder who of them have actually shot it. I have and it is HORRIBLE in a word. I didn't even have enough adjustment in the Leupold scope on my rifle to get it to hit the target at 100 yards it dropped so much. I was able to shoot groups with it at 25 and 50 yards in several rimfires and groups were so large you'd better be shooting at big game cuz it sure wasn't accurate enough for small game.

tn_junk · « **Reply #21 on:** February 02, 2009, 08:10:26 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard on February 02, 2009, 08:01:36 AM

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get some Aguila 60 grain SSS.

I keep seeing folks recommending others buy this stuff but I have to wonder who of them have actually shot it. I have and it is HORRIBLE in a word. I didn't even have enough adjustment in the Leupold scope on my rifle to get it to hit the target at 100 yards it dropped so much. I was able to shoot groups with it at 25 and 50 yards in several rimfires and groups were so large you'd better be shooting at big game cuz it sure wasn't accurate enough for small game.

I've shot almost 300 rounds of it. My Handi loved it as did my Marlin Bolt Action. I could shoot game killing groups out to 50 yards. Never shot it further than that. I specifically sighted my Marlin Bolt in for it. My older Marlin would not shoot it accurately, looked more like a shotgun pattern at 50 yards, and it would not cycle in my Marlin Model 60. I think it is highly gun dependant.

alan

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #22 on:** February 02, 2009, 09:01:13 AM »

The SSS .22 ammo is made for a 1-8 twist barrel standard .22 barrels will usally not stabilize it, It just is not made to shoot out of a standard .22. Thier standard sub sonic .22 shoot really well out of all my .22s. I shoot alot of Agulia ammo.

Graybeard · « **Reply #23 on:** February 02, 2009, 09:04:39 AM »

Yup but the 60 SSS seems to be what so many hype and yet most of the rimfires out there won't shoot it well enough to be useful. For those that do it might be fine but the chances of your rifle or handgun shooting it with useful accuracy is not good from the tests I've done in the various rimfires I have.

burntmuch · « **Reply #24 on:** February 02, 2009, 09:58:40 AM »

Quote from: tn_junk on February 02, 2009, 07:53:32 AM

I'm getting real careful about who I tell what I have stockpiled, and where it is stockpiled at.
Maybe I am paranoid, but I ain't expecting anything good to come for us "gun people" in the next 8 years or so.

alan

Thats kinda my thought on that issue. As far as me stocking up on ammo Im thinking I may need alot more .223

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #25 on:** February 02, 2009, 01:01:32 PM »

Quote from: burntmuch on February 02, 2009, 09:58:40 AM

Quote from: tn_junk on February 02, 2009, 07:53:32 AM
I'm getting real careful about who I tell what I have stockpiled, and where it is stockpiled at.
Maybe I am paranoid, but I ain't expecting anything good to come for us "gun people" in the next 8 years or so.

alan
Thats kinda my thought on that issue. As far as me stocking up on ammo Im thinking I may need alot more .223

I sold all my guns and ammo, I just come here for good reading.

Jerry Lester · « **Reply #26 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:29:38 AM »

The only loaded ammo I have stock piled is about 20,000 rounds of 22 LR, and around 500-600 rounds of 20 gauge. I do have around 15,000 pistol primers, and a few thousand rifle primers though, along with enough components for quite a few thousand assorted rifle/pistol rounds.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #27 on:** February 03, 2009, 10:57:48 AM »

Where to start.
To answer the original question.
I have a back up supply of ammo for all of my guns that will give me three loadings of the gun as a minimum. So I have 20 30round mags for my AR so I keep 1500 rounds of 223 in the OOPS box. Same goes for 22LR and 9X19.
As to the 60 grain SSS rounds. I have shot a bunch of them. Depending on the rifle they are not exactly accurate for small game but one of my 10/22 likes them enough to shoot coyote out to 50 yards. I too had the same problem with not enough scope for 100 yards. On my CZ 452 with the sliding rear sight I need to put it on 175m to hit things out to 100 yards. Out of a mag(5) I can hit a 2liter bottle once.
But as far as personal defence they do more dammage to 2liter bottles out of a pistol than does a stinger at 25 feet. Not target quality but a bigger hunk of lead out of a pistol is always better. Do I keep them in my OOPs box? NO. I buy 500 every now and then and keep a mag with some when small game hunting for medium game animals that pop up.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #28 on:** February 03, 2009, 11:04:57 AM »

OH yea my friend has a similar amount of fodder for his guns but unlike me he has it and that is it. What I do is rotate new stuff into the box and take the oldest out and shoot it. I know ammo kept dry and cool will last a long time but I run the OOPs ammo through the gun to make sure it works, bad time to find out all your oops ammo will not fire in your gun, and I stay current with the gun. My buddy has his oops boxes to include the guns. My arguement with him is how are you going to hit anything you need to if you don't shoot the rifle, shotgun or the handguns. Your shooting skills are perishable.

jrfrmn · « **Reply #29 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:17:14 PM »

Has anyone evere used the 22lr value packs made by Remington, and Federal. How do they compare to CCI or Winchester?

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