Author Topic: steves pages are gone (Read 1443 times)

Kurt L · « **on:** January 08, 2009, 07:15:47 PM »

Well I went to steve's pages to do some more cartridge comparisons and gone.
for those that may not know it was a nice site with cartridge drawings and sizes etc.
Sorry to see him drop it

http://stevespages.com/page8d.htm

Graybeard · « **Reply #1 on:** January 08, 2009, 07:31:26 PM »

Doesn't surprise me in the least. He was seriously guilty of copy right infringement and that he got away with it as long as he did is the surprise. I used to let him post his links here freely as he wanted but then he started posting links to where he was selling copies of copy righted material and I had to call a halt to it. He got mad at me shortly afterward and pretty much stopped posting here all together and then set up forums on his site.

If he didn't get caught on the copy right thing I'd be surprised. Some folks take that stuff kinda serious like.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #2 on:** January 08, 2009, 07:47:24 PM »

They aren't all gone, just the cartridge dimensions and the reloading data pages that I've noticed so far.

Tim

http://stevespages.com/page1.htm

skb2706 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 09, 2009, 09:04:35 AM »

Not sure what you fellas are seeing but its all there when I go there. The man offers up more free information about handloading than any single person i have ever contacted on the net (I use his info for reference). The copy right problems aren't mine so I don't care.

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #4 on:** January 09, 2009, 09:12:44 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on January 08, 2009, 07:47:24 PM

They aren't all gone, just the cartridge dimensions and the reloading data pages that I've noticed so far.

Tim

http://stevespages.com/page1.htm

The only ones that were even remotely usefull

Steve P · « **Reply #5 on:** January 09, 2009, 09:48:24 AM »

I found this out recently also. I ended up doing internet searches for what I was looking for. I was quite suprized to find that wikipedia had the correct information.

Steve (but not THAT Steve)

CaptainJack · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2009, 10:02:21 AM »

http://stevespages.com/page8a.htm

Reloading Date for Rifles and Pistols.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2009, 10:16:35 AM »

The reloading data page was shut down yesterday, looks like he enabled it again since, it was shutdown the same as the cartridge dimensions page. http://stevespages.com/page8d.htm

Tim

Kurt L · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2009, 12:52:45 PM »

I just tried again tim and it is not up.

Graybeard · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2009, 12:58:20 PM »

It maybe nothing more than the hackers that got to us have gotten to Steve but it might also be that someone has gotten him on the copyright material. I would be inclined to think some day that's gonna bite him in the butt. I was concerned it would bite me just letting him post the offers to sell it here. I don't care either but the owners of the stuff might.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2009, 01:25:38 PM »

The data page is still available....for now. http://stevespages.com/page8a.htm or http://stevespages.com/page8c.htm

Tim

Kurt L · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2009, 01:33:08 PM »

I see them yes but the cartridge drawings and dimensions page is gone.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2009, 01:44:22 PM »

Yup, they're still gone, probably forever! AmmoGuide has em listed if you want an alternate source. http://ammoguide.com/

Tim

Kurt L · « **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2009, 01:50:28 PM »

I did not find that in my search for a replacement for cartridge dimensions and drawings.thanks Tim you da man

quickdtoo · « **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2009, 01:55:58 PM »

Here's another with some listed. http://reloadbench.com/cartspec.html

Tim'

Graybeard · « **Reply #15 on:** January 09, 2009, 07:03:36 PM »

Quote from: Kurt L on January 09, 2009, 01:33:08 PM

I see them yes but the cartridge drawings and dimensions page is gone.

They along with all the Owner's manuals and such were copy righted material.

Hairtrigger · « **Reply #16 on:** January 10, 2009, 02:20:10 AM »

You have to hand it to Steve. You hear complaints how much cash it takes to have a good website/Forum and keep it up... NOT FROM STEVE! His site had tons of info... not sure about the traffic but I never heard whining about money

Graybeard · « **Reply #17 on:** January 10, 2009, 06:39:07 AM »

Steve ran a fairly low budget site for a long time and took it from his pocket as I did here for a long time until costs rose so high it was no longer in my budget to just take it from my pocket. I then had to begin selling advertising to keep it afloat. Without it this one would not exist.

Steve eventually decided he had to have income from it to keep his afloat as well. He began selling copies of the copy righted material tho to raise it a step I'd have been much too concerned about the repercussions of to do myself. Dunno if he ever began selling advertising also or what.

As long as you stay small and offer mostly a data site you can keep costs very low. When you begin offering forums and the traffic level requires a dedicated server costs sky rocket fast. Many is the time I've wished I'd stayed small and low cost but there's no turning back at this point and finally after a lot of years of negative cash flow from GBO it's actually bringing in a little profit for us.

Blowtorch53 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 10, 2009, 08:42:24 AM »

Guys,

This should be a lesson for all of us. If you like this forum, post some stuff. Anthing you post might be valuable to someone, even a problem with something or an opinion that might seem dumb to you at the time.

Also, support this forum if you are able and you like it. It is easy to contribute a little money a few times an year to help keep it open. See the Pay Pal button below. Spend your available hunting, shooting, fishing, etc. money with the advertisers here. They are a good bunch and I do.

I don't know Graybeard personally but I love this forum and thank him for it. Keep up the good work GB! This is totally unsolicited.

Sincerely,

Blowtorch53

OR-E-Gun Bill · « **Reply #19 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:20:54 AM »

Looks like Steve changed his mind again. The cartridge dimensions are back on line. http://stevespages.com/page8d.htm

Bill

AtlLaw · « **Reply #20 on:** January 16, 2009, 11:54:33 AM »

Quote from: Blowtorch53 on January 10, 2009, 08:42:24 AM

Spend your available hunting, shooting, fishing, etc. money with the advertisers here.

+1 ! And find a way to let them know they have your business because of this forum!

Graybeard · « **Reply #21 on:** January 16, 2009, 07:18:31 PM »

That is what keeps the advertisers renewing their ads and those ads are what keeps this and any other site like it running. Small ones you can cover out of pocket fairly well but when they get this large and cost this much it takes a lot of revenue flow to cover expenses. Dunno what Steve's expenses are or for that matter anyone's other than ours. From what ours are tho I can kinda speculate what other sites of similar size might be.

It's one heck of a lot more than I could afford with no paying advertisers. It's nice to make a bit of profit also for all the time and effort that goes into such a site.