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Offline montveil

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sticks vs bipod
« on: December 31, 2008, 05:58:53 AM »
I have read that the H&R Sportster 17 HMR will shoot best supported under the hinge.
I assume that eliminates the bipod in favor of shooting sticks.
I'm aware of the other considerations between bipods and sticks.
When using sticks under the hinge it seems that rifle balance is awkward.
Any suggestions on stick use?

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Re: sticks vs bipod
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2008, 09:57:36 AM »
I use sticks, and place them under the forearm screw.  That seems to balance the gun well, and also is easier and faster to use than a bi-pod.  I tried to use several different bi-pods mounted on the gun and did not like them, they are hard to adjust, and hold level.  Sticks just spread them and drop the gun in.  To lower the gun just spread the sticks, to raise just lift the sticks and they move together.  Easy.     
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Re: sticks vs bipod
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2009, 02:40:08 AM »
I agree with Sourdough. I picked up a pole cat a couple years ago and really like it. Although I DO LIKE the bipods for my bolt varmint rifles.  ;D

 The handi will always shoot best if the rest is kept close to the hinge. But anywhere from the screw back is acceptable. the biggest reason for this is forend contact with the barrel. as long as you have plenty of clearance and pressing against the forend will not cause the forend to contact the barrel, you may very well be fine with the sticks farther forward.
One that that a negative regardless of make or model, they will all rebound off a hard rest.

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Re: sticks vs bipod
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 12:55:06 AM »
I picked up some shooting sticks last year to help my kids.  Well, uhhh, maybe they are good for Dad as well.
I get most solid if I can get an extra point of support...in other words either get my back against a tree/post or get one leg of the shooting sticks against something.  If you can lock all those points of contact and support together, it is excellent.  In one of our shooting stands, our set up is to get a boot behind each foot of the sticks and lean the top against the side of the blind.  That's solid, and we can adjust elevation with our feet, sliding forward or back a little.

They are also surprisingly steady if you grasp the forend of the rifle against one leg of the sticks.

Experiment.
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Re: sticks vs bipod
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 03:22:34 AM »
I agree on preferring sticks and disliking bipods for all the reasons mentioned. Another reason to prefer sticks is cost. Go to the lumber yard and get a piece of 1/8" X 1 1/2"  moulding or something similar. If you go to the right place, they may even cut it down so it will fit in your car. When you get home cut two pieces about 42" for sitting or 46" if you might use them for kneeling. If you want sticks for standing, you'll probably have to hire a guide to carry them for you.

Lay the two on top of each other and drill a series of 1/4" holes down the center and 2" apart. Put a 1/4" bolt with a wingnut through the right hole, spread the legs and wa-la, shooting sticks.  By moving the bolt to different holes they will be infinately adjustable down to your lowest prone position, and if you drill your holes at even intervals you can use a second bolt and turn it into a monopod for standing.

 
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Re: sticks vs bipod
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 11:22:53 AM »
I just made a set using a couple 48" dowels and a garden hose O-ring.  Slide the o-ring up and down to adjust.  Simple.  Tried a regular o-ring, but it would roll down and not hold the rifle.
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Re: sticks vs bipod
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 11:30:52 AM »
I have both.  I use them on my SS1 in 22 Mag.  I use the sticks when walking around and use the bipod if we are going to be sitting in a fixed position and calling coyote.  Both work well. 
I just practice with what I am planning on using a few times before the hunt.
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