Author Topic: Buffalo Bore ammo (Read 3180 times)

S.E.Ak · « **on:** November 18, 2008, 11:27:06 AM »

Ok I will we using the the Hornady 45/70 Leverevelution ammo for 99% of my hunting. What in your experience is the best Buffalo Bore round for walking into and out of the woods.Stand up bullet,hits where you point it etc. Is there sometime else store bought out there that's better?

Westbound · « **Reply #1 on:** January 19, 2009, 11:28:33 AM »

I've shot the Buffalo Bore 405gr jacketed that moves at 2000fps.
I haven't hunted with it, but it was very accurate at 100 yards on paper.
I'm sure it would drop any critter you wanted to hunt with it, but its a bruiser on the shoulder.

When buying Buffalo Bore or any other hot ammo, like Garrett, be sure to heed the warnings about which loads can safely be fired with which guns.
I know for a fact that Garrett offers some loads geared toward dangerous game that are for Ruger #1 and Siamese Mauser conversions only.

Graybeard · « **Reply #2 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:22:47 PM »

If you can take the recoil (I couldn't) they make one with a 420 or 430 grain cast bullet that was super accurate in my rifles and should go end to end of most anything short of an elephant. If I could stand the recoil and wanted a single do it all round that one would likely be it. In my Browning Hi Wall BPCR I think it was the most accurate of the entire BB line.

Mikey · « **Reply #3 on:** January 21, 2009, 02:20:24 AM »

Amigo Will - what are you going to be hunting (in the US??) that you can not take with the plain old Remington 300 or 405 gn slug in the 45-70 that would not perform any better than the Buffalo Bore?

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Swampman · « **Reply #4 on:** January 21, 2009, 02:22:25 AM »

I love the Remingtom 405 grain factory load. It is a hammer!

jro45 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 21, 2009, 03:21:40 AM »

A frend of mine killed a buffalo using a 338 not the RUM but the other powerful 338 shooting
a 250gr bullet.

efremtags · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:44:15 PM »

I see how the last thread applies to the topic. I once met a guy from buffalo, but you don't see me writeing about it.

Like any premium ammo, you have to weigh the performance need with the hunt. For deer, black bear and typical big game, the leverloution is probably the best value around.

The buffalo bore is meant for big big game (big bears, africa, etc). You probably will never require the edge the heavier hot loads will provide with average game.

I hand load 405GR REM to about 100FPS out of a guide gun, and it hass shot shoulder to shoulder bone and all in black bear. The 405Gr factory load is a penetrator, but pretty dismal performance becasue of the low power specs of BP pressure. The 300gr stuff is crap. it will act like a 12g slug, lots of expansion and damaged meat, not much penetration.

efremtags · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2009, 01:46:36 PM »

hit send before I finished.

I shoot the 325, my 405GR handloads and 425Gr handload hardcast. It is a comparable analogy to BB ammo. The 425 shoot 2" high at 60, the 405 1" high, the 325 dead on. From a practical standpoint all 3 are zeroed from 0 - 125 yards without any need to compensat on big game. I think the heavier ammo arcs more so it shoots high at a close trajectory, explainign this phenomena.

jro45 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 24, 2009, 12:27:08 PM »

With my 458 Lott I shoot the 500 solids at 2355 FPS. I know that the 458 Wim Mag can't come close. No offence intended.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #9 on:** January 24, 2009, 03:43:03 PM »

efremtags

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The 300gr stuff is crap. it will act like a 12g slug, lots of expansion and damaged meat, not much penetration.

I don't know what you are shooting to give you that idea!
On deer I have never recovered a 300jhp factory round in my life.
All have been complete pass throughs at ranges from 30yds out to 250yds.
Neck, shoulder or vitals.
They do tear up a lot of meat sometimes!
I have shot over 60 deer with them.

LONGTOM

efremtags · « **Reply #10 on:** January 24, 2009, 04:16:38 PM »

I don't use 300gr (remington specifically) but have friends who have. I did a lot of research in forumns talking to people who use them when I started handloading for the 45/70 becasue they are very cheap in bulk which peaked my interest. I received consistant feedback that this round will over expand at the level III +p velocity range and there are better rounds out there for the task. Since I hunt with 12g slugs, I know the round can be effective on deer. I shoot the slugs becasue there really isn't a choice. Yes there are tuns of sabot ammo out there, if you have rifled bore and if you like $3-round ammo.

With that type of performance, sooner or later, you hit bone or a raking angle and the bullet will let you down.

I am sure at the trap door velocity the expansion is kept reasonable. I am handloading hotter, so its apples and oranges.

LONGTOM · « **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2009, 05:01:12 PM »

I understand.
I don't use Remington either for various resones and haven't handloaded to that level yet.
If I do step it up to +p what do you think of using a good 300gr JSP?

LONGTOM

Westbound · « **Reply #12 on:** January 25, 2009, 02:03:32 PM »

Quote from: jro45 on January 24, 2009, 12:27:08 PM

With my 458 Lott I shoot the 500 solids at 2355 FPS. I know that the 458 Wim Mag can't come close. No offence intended.

I'm not sure that anyone had mentioned the 458 Win Mag or the 458 Lott.

Us 45-70 shooters could only dream of lead that big moving that fast.
How does it do on game? I'm pretty sure I know how it is on the shoulder of the shooter

EsoxLucius · « **Reply #13 on:** February 02, 2009, 06:05:32 AM »

Quote from: LONGTOM on January 24, 2009, 05:01:12 PM

I don't use Remington either for various resones and haven't handloaded to that level yet.
If I do step it up to +p what do you think of using a good 300gr JSP?

The Speer 300 grain UniCor hollow point #2482 is a good one. The Nosler 300 grain Partition is excellent but more expensive. The 300 grain Hornady works very well for deer up to 2200 fps.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 03, 2009, 03:15:43 AM »

The standard 45-70, 405 gr. load will kill just about anything. Buffalo Bore ammo is over priced, I can reload equal or better loads for my 45-70 at less than a 1/4 of the price.

Swampman · « **Reply #15 on:** February 03, 2009, 03:34:10 AM »

Quote from: efremtags on January 24, 2009, 04:16:38 PM

I don't use 300gr (remington specifically) but have friends who have.

Forget the 300 grainers. Get the 405.