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45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« on: November 11, 2008, 10:46:25 AM »
JUST ORDERED A FEW BOXES OF BOTH OF THE FOLLOWING BULLETS AND WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAD ANY SUCCESS WITH EITHER ONE? WILL BE HUNTING HOGS AND MULE DEER OUT TO 200 YARDS.

1st) Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullets .458 Cal-.458" Dia. 300 Gr TSX FB

2nd) Barnes .458" Dia. 450 Gr. XFB Flat Base

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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 10:53:45 AM »
I've shot the 300gr TSX-FB at 2320fps in my SS 45-70 Ultra Hunter, it's very accurate with H4198 using their data, it's should perform great on deer and hogs. The 450gr XFB isn't a 45-70 bullet, it's meant for the bigger .458" big bores like the 458WM and Lott.

Tim

http://www.barnesbullets.com/images/45-70RugerNo1Web.pdf

http://www.barnesbullets.com/information/load-data/data-458/

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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2008, 11:09:54 AM »
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR RESPONSE QUICKDTOO, GOOD THING THE 450GR XFB'S WERE ON SALE. LOL ;D TOO BAD THOUGH, THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE GREAT HOG ANCHORS AROUND THE THICK SALT CEDARS IN THIS AREA.
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2008, 11:46:12 AM »
Sneak up on 'em and put the barrel right behind their left ear. That 450 grain TSX will put 'em down! ::) ;D ;D
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2008, 11:56:20 AM »
Not sure if that 450 is enough to take down a mulie. ;D  DP
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2008, 12:04:13 PM »
I think the 450gr would work like a solid pretty much unless you were real close, then it might expand some with stout loads. Good thing you got em on sale, even the 300gr sells for $1 each!! :o Of course if you can get better velocity out of the 32" BC barrel, it may work well, with 350gr bullets and the right powder, I get 150-200fps more velocity in the BC than the 22" Handi barrel, Barnes' data shows 2000-2200fps working velocity for the 450gr in the 458WM, of course if you can get there, you'll probably want that brake!!! ;D

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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 12:20:16 PM »
BARNES HAS THE 450 X FB ON SALE FOR $10 A BOX, THOUGHT I MIGHT GIVE THEM A WHIRL. WHO KNOWS, MIGHT BEE ABLE TO PERSUADE A BUDDY TO TRY THEM OUT FIRST. HEHEHE ;)
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 12:23:32 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2008, 01:47:19 PM »
What ranges are you thinking of for the hogs?  I have some 550 gr hard cast JB Young bullets that I'm pretty sure will do in even hogzilla at 100 yards. Nice big meplat and plenty of mass.  Kick like a T-eed of mule at 1650 fps though.
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2008, 02:45:55 PM »
If ya want mass, go for the 720gr Ranger Ricks!! ;D

Tim

http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/

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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2008, 03:59:27 PM »
I know Tye has slammed those into his 45-120, will there even be room for powder in a 45-70 case after you seat that thing?
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2008, 12:26:53 PM »
RELOADED A FEW 300 TSX FB WITH GOOD RESULTS. 53 GR. OF RELOADER 7, CCI 200 PRIMERS, 2.75 OAL, FEDERAL NICKEL CASES, GOT 3 SHOT GROUP OF 2 INCHES OD AT 100 YARDS, NOT BAGGED. SPENT CASES AND PRIMERS ALL LOOKED GOOD. DIDNT TAKE CHRONO BUT WILL NEXT TIME. CANT WAIT TILL NEXT WEEKEND(MULE DEER SEASON OPENS).  ;D
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2008, 12:43:49 PM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on November 11, 2008, 02:45:55 PM
If ya want mass, go for the 720gr Ranger Ricks!! ;D

Tim

http://www.lsstuff.com/ranger-rick/

45 Colt & 720gr .458" Ranger Rick


Tim,
Do you just fire them with a primer? There can't be much room left for powder! LOL I found the 460gr. Cast Performance bullets to be the most accurate in my gun with 38.0gr. of RL-7.
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2008, 01:11:44 PM »
WILL TRY IT BAGGED AND SOME LEAD IN THE STOCK, SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THOSE GROUPS A LITTLE TIGHTER.
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2008, 01:16:34 PM »
Quote from: Big Blue on November 16, 2008, 12:43:49 PM

Tim,
Do you just fire them with a primer? There can't be much room left for powder! LOL I found the 460gr. Cast Performance bullets to be the most accurate in my gun with 38.0gr. of RL-7.
Don

Haven't loaded any of em yet Don, I got em to load in the 45-120, but Tyler tried em in his 45-120 and they keyholed!

Tim

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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2008, 02:03:26 PM »
Tim,
I'm not much on math, but I wonder what the proper twist rate would be for that bullet based on the Grreenhill Formula?
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Re: 45-70 LOADED WITH BARNES TSX FB
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2008, 02:09:27 PM »
Here's ya go!! I figured this out once before, I'd need to achieve 2050fps with it before a 1:20" twist would work, that's not possible in a 45-70, but may be doable in a 45-120 BC at about 50kpsi!! :o  Bullet is 1.68" long.

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