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Offline rickt300

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Custom early 303 British
« on: October 21, 2008, 05:25:57 AM »
I saw a movie I believe was called "Lion in the Darkness" in which a nicely turned early 303 was used. I am thinking of puting one together. How hard is it to get a new 303 barrel? How about custom wood? Is the nomenclature for the early version Number 1 Mark III?
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Re: Custom early 303 British
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 10:02:53 PM »
The movie you're taking about is "The Ghost and the Darkness", based on a true story. After it came out, quite a bit was written about the rifles used. To be honest, I'm not too up on the Enfields. I think that if I was trying to replicate the rifle used, I'd first figure out exactly what it was, then start looking for something very similar already made up, because in the U.S. the .303's are really not very poplular at all ( as compared to Canada, and England, for example ), and really don't bring much money. Would be a whole lot cheaper then piecing one together.
Of course, having said that, there is alot of joy in turning a sows ear into a silk purse, if you choose to do it yourself.
Good luck with your quest.
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Re: Custom early 303 British
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2008, 04:11:33 AM »
That is the movie I was thinking about. I would do all the work on the rifle other than building the sights. It would be nice to know the barrel length along with some of the other details.
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Re: Custom early 303 British
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2008, 09:44:15 AM »
The rifle used in that movie was a Lee Speed Metford sporter (I think that I have it all in order), not an Enfield.  The Metford was the rifle that Lee developed before the Enfield was designed.  You aren't going to find a Metford action to use....the last Metford sporter rifle in fine condition that I saw on Gunbroker went for about $3000.  Some of the makers of those rifles were Rigby, Holland & Holland, and the other big name British firms.  Rifles in those days typically had longer barrels than the rifles of today, most of the Metfords I've seen on-line had 26"-28" barrels.

You could use an Enfield action to build a respectable copy of the rifle, good enough to give you that "African" feel of hunting with a classic British rifle.  The hardest thing nowadays with that is finding an action with a barrel that's not shot out.  I've bought 6 different Enfield sporters in the last year, and only two of them had what I'd call a decent barrel.  The other four were crap, and wouldn't shoot worth a damn with anything. 

You can get a properly sized .303 bore barrel from Montana Rifle Company, in lengths up to 28", but I don't think that they'll fit a barrel to an Enfield action.  They're about the only barrel maker who makes the proper bore size for a .303.  You can use a regular .30 cal barrel that's .308 bore size and chamber it to .303 British and use common .308 bullets if you're a handloader.

There's a guy out west who has a little company called Special Interest Arms that's an Enfield freak.....he loves the gun.  He can do whatever you want done, and the prices aren't bad for what essentially a custom rifle.  He's got nice walnut stocks, composite stocks, and laminated stocks.  It'll take a while for anything to be done though.  I sent an Enfield out to him once, to see if it was worth making into a gun like what you're looking for.  He had the gun for three MONTHS, and hadn't even looked at it yet.  I told him to just forget it and send it back.  That took another 6 weeks and a letter threatening to contact the BBB and his local Chamber of Commerce.  So I can't say that I recommend him, but he can do the work you want done.

You definitely want to find a gunsmith that's comfortable with Enfields to do the work, there are a lot of little details with the Enfield action that aren't like the common bolt actions of America.  There are different size bolt heads for head-space issues, the barrel has a shoulder milled on it that can make removal difficult without a lathe, etc.  It's also extremely easy to bend the action trying to remove the barrel.

I've decided that when I have the money for the project (in other words, money that my wife is un-aware I have  ;D), I've going to have a Ruger #1 single shot done up in .303 British to resemble a single shot sporter similar to that time period.

If you liked the movie, the actual book of the true story is called "The Man-Eaters of Tsavo" by Lt. Colonel J.H. Patterson, and it's a great read.  I got the book for CHRISTmas several tears ago from a buddy who knew that I loved the movie.

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Re: Custom early 303 British
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 03:02:44 AM »
I have a Mk4 number 1 with a ruined by corrosive ammo bore. I guess the first part of the problem will be finding a Number 1 MKIII with a decent bore.
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