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Offline 223dog

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where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« on: September 25, 2008, 10:54:36 AM »
I have a ultra varmint and the butt stock ammo holder doesn't fit very well and i don't like the way it looks.  It is very stretched just doesn't seem right.  When I am out hunting with this rifle I carry the extra ammo in my pocket.  If I am sitting down I have a hard time getting a cartridge out.  If standing it is a little faster but still takes a lot longer than i would like it.  How does everyone else who owns a ultra varmint carry extra ammo?  I have tried to get a cartridge out before I sit down and hold it In my hand, but it seems to just be in the way.  I bought this rifle to be a prairie dog and a coyote rifle.  It works fine for prairie dogs, but it is a slow and heavy gun for coyotes.  I have taken this gun coyote hunting and If there are two coyotes or I need a fast 2nd shot I am out of luck.  I have tried belt cartridge holders and they work unless your coat covers them.  My brother puts a butt stock cartridge holder on his wrist, i tend to like this best of all.  Any ideas?     

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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 01:17:54 PM »
generally with my singles I wear them on my wrist, most of the time both wrists just in case I confuse myself.  ;D

I too bought a stock shell carrier and had one heck of a time getting it on, especially with the sling stud on, so now that its all stretched and "broke in" it fits on my wrist nicely over a light jacket, and as a plus it holds a few more rounds.

I used to carry them in my pocket but they make noise and are less accessable if I am carrying more junk. Any extra ammo than that goes into a fanny pack or my backpack, or just stays in the jeep.

I just remembered, they make some that fit on the forend of rifles as well, havent seen one used, but am quite certain you can find one.

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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 01:40:42 PM »
Between the first and second finger of my off hand like a cigar.

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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 02:46:56 PM »
Between the first and second finger of my off hand like a cigar.

Ian

 If I am expecting a second shot, I also do this. I also like the two round wrist holders for the summer chucks and song dogs. For general hunting 2-3 rounds in various pockets works fine.

I have never had a need for an instaneous second shot.

I wish I had a video of it, but some 5 years back my buddie and I took our wives on one of those canned boar hunts. We would video, they would shoot. Don't you know the week end was a rain out. Temps where in the low 30's and it was a rain/snow mix. the girls elected to stay in camp. We figured, its paid for and we are already here, so, we headed out. Now, I had only brought an old  short barreled Handi 12ga with peep sites and a hand full of buck shot and two slugs. Figured I would only need it for finishing a wounded boar off or fending one off a mean one.

 The guides figured they would try for to really big ornery boars known to be on the back side of the property in a thick swamp. We slowly walked along a hog trail, when the guide in front of me stops and slowly backs up. As he stops beside me he says there is your boar, right there 30 yards out just to the side of the trail. Just then he lets out a snort and gets up running straight at us. As calmly as I can I shoulder the handi, center the front site on his head as near as I can tell between his eyes and squeeze the trigger. BOOM, the pis literally skids to a halt some ten feet from us. Well I THOUGHT, we where all there. More on that in a moment. Just as quick as that, a second pig jumps up and he charges too. I have already got the handi open and had just inserted a second and last rem slug. This time the boar stops after only going a couple feet. My buddie is yelling he has no shot. The pig turns to walk away, but pauses and looks back. As if to say, "Your still here". He instantly spins and is barreling down on me. All the time my buddie from somewhere behind and to my side is yelling NO SHOT, NO SHOT. I shoulder the handi and repeat what just happened seconds before... BOOM, the second pig LITERALLY dies on top of teh first pig. Both with a 1oz slug in the noggin.

There I am, standing in a couple inches of mud and water. Still smoking Handi in hand with water streaming off my cowboy hat. I look around to see my buddie walking toward me, with a huge smile on his face. The guides are NOWHERE TO BE SEEN!!! In a couple seconds they emerge from the brush running up to us, hooting, hollering and smacking me on the back. Both couldn't believe what they just saw and just had to see this little gun. They couldn't believe how I just stood there, coolly loading the gun as the pig charged me. Then boom, one down and a couple seconds later, boom second pig. Both where solid 300Lb pigs.

SO, with some practice and a cool head, loading for a second shot, in a single shot, ain't no big thing.  I just wish we had been able to film that...

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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 03:23:10 PM »
I don't shoot a handi (I have two that my son uses) but on my Encore I use a cartridge carrier that slips over the barrel and forearm and hold two shells just to the right and below the scope. It is made specifically for the Encore but it is rubber and might work on a handi. I have tried one of the slings mentioned in the previous post and personally didn't like it. The cartridges always seem to bang into something when I was trying to get a rest. I have also lost cartridges because they fell out while traveling in the woods. I am also going to try a wrist holder which sounds to me like it might be best for you as well.
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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2008, 03:31:33 PM »
I use the butt holder, rifle not mine, but the wrist one sounds real interesting.  In brush, the "cigar' method works for me, too.  DP
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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2008, 04:59:26 PM »
My idol carries his bullet in his shirt pocket for quick access.  (sorry, I couldn't resist)

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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2008, 05:27:17 PM »
I use the slip over stock shell holder on my Ultra .223.  I use a sling that holds four shells for my standard Handi in 30-06.
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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2008, 03:37:42 AM »
When yote hunting w/ my Rossi .243, I wear a cartridge belt around my waist.  When I get setup, I take it off and lay it on the ground next to me with a couple of rounds pulled out of the holders.  When I'm glassing, if I see 2 yotes or more, I grab one and do the cigar trick. 

I've found that follow up shots on a 2nd yoter are tough even w/ a semi-auto, b/c 9 times out of 10 when the first one goes down, that second one is making tracks fast!   :P 

I've yet to see anyone make a successful 2nd shot on a yoter that was in full tilt lol!  Maybe one of these days i'll do it w/ the S/S and really make my friends mouths drop open :D
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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2008, 10:19:32 AM »
When yote hunting w/ my Rossi .243, I wear a cartridge belt around my waist.  When I get setup, I take it off and lay it on the ground next to me with a couple of rounds pulled out of the holders.  When I'm glassing, if I see 2 yotes or more, I grab one and do the cigar trick. 

I've found that follow up shots on a 2nd yoter are tough even w/ a semi-auto, b/c 9 times out of 10 when the first one goes down, that second one is making tracks fast!   :P 

I've yet to see anyone make a successful 2nd shot on a yoter that was in full tilt lol!  Maybe one of these days i'll do it w/ the S/S and really make my friends mouths drop open :D

I was actually Lucky enough to have shot three yotes with in minutes of each other. WITH MY BOW!!!

 Of coarse it happened while deer hunting. My buddie had shot a nice buck the weekend before from this same stand. So the dogs where there for the gut pile. Anyhow, I hear something form behind the stand, I slowly turn and see the the first of two song dogs passing under the stand. I draw and release, hitting him right between the shoulder blades. He falls and is instantly killed, as I severed his spine slice thru both lungs and his heart.
 The second one, stops to see what up with his buddie as I knock a second arrow. I shoot this one two inches to the side of where I shot the first one. Almost a straight down shot from about 12feet. He jumps and growls spinning round and round biting himself. After about three or four revolutions, he sir-comes about five feet from the base of the tree.
 In comes the third dog, (Which I never saw) on a dead run to see what's happening with the second dog. I knock and draw the third and last arrow, he sees the movement and stops right behind a hemlock limb. I can see him fine, but the limb is screening me from a clear shot. I hold for about a minute and he steps into the open and I release. Hitting him perfectly thru the lungs, double lung shot. He runs about 50 yards and rolls into a ball right in the middle of the deer run.

 So no its wasn't a running shot, but still quite an event that you do not hear about everyday.

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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 10:46:12 AM »
I have had about three stands where 2 coyotes came in.   One stand that I three coyotes come in at a dead run.  One stand with 4,  all young pups.  Needless to say they all ran a way.  I was two excited.  when they come in alone they usually come in slower.  when multiples come in they try to beat each other to the meal.

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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2008, 01:54:44 PM »
When I feel the need to have rounds available for a rapid reload, which is not very often, I carry 2 between the fingers of my hand; either left or right, depends, but usually left.
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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 05:12:41 PM »
Between the first and second finger of my off hand like a cigar.

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Re: where do you carry extra ammo? For fast 2nd shots.
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2008, 01:56:00 AM »
I just use the cartridge holder on the butt stock... When i breech the rifle the bullets are right there close... However, I rarely need a second shot.... I'm not saying I'm that good, but they never tend to stick around after the first shot....

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2008, 08:27:30 PM »
For what I use my Handi-Rifle for, "fast second shots" probably won't be an issue for me.  Thus far, such has not been necessary in my shooting.

I carry five additional rounds in a leather belt pouch.  A medical foam insert slips inside the pouch and it has a series of holes in it which were made with a heated drill bit and are slightly smaller than a .223 Remington case (the caliber that I shoot).  The insert holds the cartridges snugly and they don't rattle around.

I use this same pouch with a different insert for squirrel and rabbit hunting (and quail and chukar hunting in California) with my Beeman R-9 air rifles in .177 and .20 caliber.  That insert has holes on one side for 10 .177 pellets and 10 on the other for .20 caliber, which is what I mostly use for small game hunting.

I haven't done this with the Handi-Rifle yet, but used to hunt a lot with a T/C Contender Carbine and Ruger Number 1's before that, and when on stand with those arms, I would do the "cigar hold" others have previously described.  I'll probably do likewise with the Handi-Rifle when our local deer gun season gets underway.

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