Help Needed Shotgun Patterns low and Left

[tlyne]

Help Needed Shotgun Patterns low and Left
I just bought a 1100 Rem 28 ga. skeet-T. Looks great, super wood but it shoots 9 inches low and 8 inches to the left. I have head people say they have seen guys take a rubber hammer to straighten a barrel.  I have a friend that put a shotgun barrel in a fork of a tree and pull on the barrel to correct shot pattern out when he was hunting when he found out that his just bought used gun shot to the left. My I ask if these are ways to correct a bad shot pattern. I need some help. How can I correct such a Problem. I have had gun for two weeks and returning may not be a option for me after such a long time.Thanks for your input. Twyman

[Graybeard]

How ya know it does? If you aimed it at a paper target firing like a rifle that's NOT how ya shoot it in the real world. I have zero use for paper patterning of shotguns and see it as useless.

The ONLY way I pattern my shotguns are to shoot them at skeet and watch where I'm breaking the targets. How I shoot it on moving targets is the ONLY thing I care about.

There are a number of ways to change POI of a shotgun the easiest is likely to send it to Briley telling them how much change you want in POI and let them make choke tubes to do it. BUT before you do be really sure you KNOW that's what you want done.

How do you shoot it on the range? Are you breaking the targets cleanly?

I never ever pattern a gun on paper and if me and it don't shoot together I get rid of it.

Your eye is the rear sight in effect on a shotgun. To raise POI you raise the rear sight so your eye needs to be higher. A thin addition might fix that. To move it right you need to move your eye to the right meaning removing wood or adding cast off I think.

If it were mine I'd see how I do on clays with it and if me and it don't center them cleanly when I'm shooting well it would be traded.

[trotterlg]

There are tools made to do exactly what you want, here is one at Brownells:

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=1757&title=BARREL%20PRESS

[tlyne]

Thanks trotterlg , That is what I was looking for. Their is so much knowledge on this Webb site. I will check with my gunsmith first and see if he has a barrel press if not I will make one. I will leave the hammer in the tool box. Thanks again.

[tlyne]

We got the 1100 28 ga. shotgun to pattern good. We made the barrel press and it took three bends to move the pattern to the center. It was a piece of cake. That 28 ga never has shot good before it came to me. I am happy with it now. It is a skeet-T has beautiful wood.Thanks again. Twyman

[SHOOTALL]

place a 40 inch paper circle about 25-30 yards away and put a 4inch dot in the center , bring the gun to your shoulder firring as the butt contacts the shoulder while looking at the dot . shoot about 10 times where the highest concentration of shot has hit is where the gun is shooting for you . It may/will be different for others . . DON"T AIM . shoot like a shotgun should be shot pointed  . also check end of bbl. for defects ! Remember if the sight is in focus ( not a blur )then you are aiming not pointing !
You may be able to adjust yourself ( hold etc. ) instead of adjusting the gun .

[bilmac]

They say that there are some folks who can see your pattern when you shoot at clay targets if they stand behind you. If you could find someone who can do that he could help a lot. The traditional way to correct a shotgun that doesn't shoot where it is pointed is to add or remove thickness at the comb.

[gunnut69]

In general unless the barrel is damaged the rear sight(your eye) is what gets moved. Stocks can be altered and patterning is the only way to tell what's going where! Usually a few rounds will produce a dense enough spot on the paper that it becomes obvious as long as the shooter is fairly consistant. Bending a barrel must be done with the patterning process or the effect is hard to determine...

[tlyne]

I guess, I was just lucky  with the bending job of a bended barrel. I shot a 24 with the little 1100 28 ga the first round today. Boy, was I  lucky, the wood is just out of sight for a 1982 little skeet gun. The gun looks like new has two small scratches which you have to look hard to find.The guy who sold it to me sure thought he was putting the screws to me with a gun that would not shoot. I have always hear-ed that it was better to be lucky than good. I never thought some thing this good would fall my way. Just hope my luck keeps coming. I do need to say thanks to trotterlg again for the help. Thanks Twyman