Author Topic: Thinking about one of these (Read 2078 times)

12ptdroptine · « **on:** September 11, 2008, 11:21:26 AM »

I have been thinking about a NEF .22 or .22 mag.. I have a Ruger 10/22 a Marlin 39a and a Savage .22mag model 93 with a lightened trigger spring.... All shoot fine .Just interested in a single shot heavy barrel..What kind of accuracy do thes .22 and .22 mag's get? I like to keep them affordable to shoot..Therefore not looking at the .17... It is probably a fine round..Just not what I think I am looking for..Kinda pricey ..Drop

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** September 11, 2008, 12:03:03 PM »

Neither of those are offered in a bull barrel, the 22Lr never was, the 22mag bull barrel was discontinued, whether you can find one or still get an accessory barrel is another matter. Only the 17hmr is currently available in a bull barrel, the 17M2 was discontinued also.

Tim

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #2 on:** September 11, 2008, 03:44:10 PM »

well horse feather's..... well I guess that answer's that question.... Maybe the Savage model 93 in a heavy barrel... Or trying the new Hornaday 30 gr.... I want 1" groups @ 100 ds...I am getting 1.5 to 2'' now with Remington 33gr Vmax... It doesnt like any CCI stuff.. The old Winchester silver box 40 shoot well @ 50 yds..But I swear I can see them flying... Drop

tn_junk · « **Reply #3 on:** September 12, 2008, 03:04:01 AM »

I have a .22 Handi Sportster.
Most accurate .22 I have ever owned. And that includes a couple of "target" models
with bull barrels.

alan

djw · « **Reply #4 on:** September 12, 2008, 06:06:01 AM »

Drop,
Local shop had .22mag bull barrel on the rack, last I checked. Laminated stock ultra model, now discontinued. $189. PM me if you want contact info.
Don

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #5 on:** September 13, 2008, 09:41:00 AM »

Thanks djw..check your pm's... Looks like I got it on its way about mon or tue... Already anxious...Drop

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #6 on:** September 18, 2008, 12:24:13 PM »

It came in yesterday.. I filled out the paperwork today..And I can pick it up tomorrow... I didnt think the barrel would have any taper to it however it does..The ser is HX ######..Does anyone know if this indicates Barrel size..I am sure it is a heavy barrel..Just double checking..Also when I broke it open the extractor didnd come out.? My dealer says possibly some cosmoline or something making it sticky..And to maybe pull the fore end off and check it when I get it home.. Sure is a nice looking gun.. Trying to decide what to put on it foe a scope..Probably a Leupold VX1 series 3x9..Drop

quickdtoo · « **Reply #7 on:** September 18, 2008, 02:17:48 PM »

Spend some time in the FAQs, the H = H&R, the X = year of manufacture, 2007. The 22mag Ultra Varmint has a 22" bull barrel, it should measure approximately .800" at the muzzle. They don't pack them in cosmoline, that's an ancient practice, but they do come with a good supply of dirt!!

It may have an extractor instead of an ejector too, but it would be the first rimfire that's been reported. Could be a missing/broken ejector spring too. $:-\$

Tim

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #8 on:** September 18, 2008, 02:37:09 PM »

Thank You Tim... Im a chomping at the bit to get this scoped out and to the range..... Sure hope its a little dirt rather than a spring problem..Drop

MSP Ret · « **Reply #9 on:** September 18, 2008, 02:58:10 PM »

NPP really (no problem pal), it is just knocking out a couple of pins and checking the "guts" of the ejector. It is all well described in the FAQ's. Keep us posted. My H&R/NEF .22 Mags are among some of my best shooting "fun guns"....<><....

djw · « **Reply #10 on:** September 18, 2008, 03:17:28 PM »

Quote from: 12ptdroptine on September 18, 2008, 12:24:13 PM

It came in yesterday.. I filled out the paperwork today..And I can pick it up tomorrow...

Good to hear you got it. Glad I could be of some service.

Don

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #11 on:** September 18, 2008, 03:27:31 PM »

Thanks a millino Don...Drop

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #12 on:** September 19, 2008, 12:51:30 PM »

Got the ejector to come out..Whacked it a couple time's with the rubber coated plastic hammer handle..on the side of the chamber..and a little squirt of PB blastrer penetrateing oil...and the box says ss1 822 which indicate's a bull barrel..Now for picking out a new scope..and some range time..Thanks all Drop

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #13 on:** September 20, 2008, 04:48:22 PM »

Ended up going with the Leupold 3x9x40 VXII.... The place I bought it from was out of the VXI..and sold it to me for the same price..I will post about that real soon... I used the Weaver Grand slam medium rings..and just BARELY had enough clearance...whew... Hopefully to the range tomorrow... How do you like the Weaver grand slam rings?? I usually use the Warne..However the shop didnt have any.. These weaver's seem ok.. Not sure about the screw from each side on the base..I tried to keep all the gap's as close to each other as possible.... Man I am chomping at the bit...LOL Drop

quickdtoo · « **Reply #14 on:** September 21, 2008, 05:13:45 AM »

Congrats on the scope, getting a VXII for the price of a VXI is a great deal unless their VX1 was way over priced!!

I'm not fond of Weaver GS rings, they're made in China, really poorly cast and machined, they take a LOT of lapping to get them true, any scope mounted in them without proper lapping will have serious ring marks and will be damaged more than likely. $:-\$ Dunno what you mean by the "screw from each side", they have one screw that goes almost all the way thru like many other rings.

Tim

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #15 on:** September 21, 2008, 10:46:49 AM »

I Mounted it up last night..Now I am concerned about ring marks..... Since it is on a .22 mag I wouldnt think it would move around any..But I am not nearly as knowledfeable as you..Do you think I should remove them and replace then with something else? I took it to the range today..And had a good session.. But if you recomend it ..I will replace the ring's and get something elas. This scope could end up an another gun down the road. I tightened it up with a Warne T wrench that is supposed to be I believe around 25 inch pounds..then I gave them a 1/16 turn with an allen wrench. But I sure dont want to damage my scope ofer a $25 set of ring's.. But maybe the damage is already done. I put about 65 rounds or so through it..And I did think the surface of the rings seemed kind of coarse. Let me know your advice please. Thanks Drop. Now for the rest of the story.. I got a coupon scratch off thing in the mail a few days ago from the store with the big flying goose on it's sign.. It was good for between 5 and 30 % on the whole purchase..And I had a coupon from them for reward's points... Know where I am going here...LOL..Any way I been wanting a Lead sled..but the only one they had in stock was the dual frame one..$200ish.. on sale for $170... and the Leupold VXI I wanted ..They couldnt find it in their store..So they offered up the VXII for the same price. $220!!! and I ordered in a bow tunning tool called the BOW Plane..$100...on sale for $69..and the rings that have me worried....So when I scratched off the circle..I was hoping for 10% but it was 15%..plus the $25 in reward's... Talk about a day of savings..(thank you lord)... I saved right a little over $100 on a $500 purchase... Not to mention that I got my new H&R Ultra Varint .22mag for $189.00.. With shipping and all it was $225 to my door... So anyway I took it to the range today..I am pleased with under 1" groups with Hornaday 30 gr vmax... First time out of the box..What more could I ask for.. Thanks all for listening Drop

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #16 on:** September 21, 2008, 10:53:01 AM »

Just looked at your pic Tim.. The rings I have have a screw on each side to tighten them down..Not one most way through... When I tightened them down the scope layed in them pretty well...I didnt even bore sight it..I thought before I did I fire one shot @ 50 and just take a chance...48 clicks up and 45 to the right and walla...We have group's...After that it was a breeze..I for got to post the pics I have so far of them. Again Thanks Drop

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #17 on:** September 21, 2008, 10:54:48 AM »

the bottom one is the 33 gr vmax.. all were @50yds from bags.. And I am not the best shooter by NO means...2 of the groups are pretty well under an inch.

JimG · « **Reply #18 on:** September 21, 2008, 11:36:36 AM »

I own a .22lr/.410 Versa Pack. Ignoring the problems with the .410 barrel, the .22lr barrel has the MicroGroove rifling that most rimfire Marlins have and is the most accurate .22 I've shot in years. That is if I remember to support the frame in front of the trigger guard and not the fore-end. I 'floated' the barrel from the fore-end with two pieces of tough, thick leather. POI does not change drastically one way or the other if I hold the fore-end but the groups do open up a bit. It can literally put three CCI SGB's into one hole at 25 yards from a bench. If I hold the fore-end the groups open up to about 3/8" CTC at 25 yards. You also need to remember to pull the trigger all the way back. Not following through with the trigger pull can cause you headaches at the range. I say buy a Sportster, might just surprise you!

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #19 on:** September 21, 2008, 11:59:41 AM »

Hey Tim ..What do you think about Millet ring's? They have them in stock..And some other style weaver's You got me worried about these GS ... Drop

quickdtoo · « **Reply #20 on:** September 21, 2008, 12:45:13 PM »

Nice shooting!!

Since you have it mounted and it's shooting good, don't worry about the rings, if there's any damage, it's done, right now whatcha don't know isn't gonna hurt ya, at least until you dismount it anyway!! $:-\$ My first choice in rings are Burris Signature Zee, the polymer insert prevents damage to the scope and requires no lapping for 100% scope to ring contact. The only problem I have with them is they don't come in low, just medium and higher. The next ring of choice is Leupold PRW or QRW, they should be lapped also, but require very little lapping in my experience. I'm not a fan of Millet Angle-Locs, if there ever was a ring that made it easy to damage a scope tube, that's it. When used with an alignment tool and lapped before mounting, they're probably just fine tho.

Another ring that's inexpensive that works good and is readily available is the Leupold Rifleman Detachable ring, it's available in low and while not real attractive, provides a good wide mounting surface and are easily lapped.

Dunno what GS rings you have, but current production shown on their website is the same style as the pic I posted, they have just one screw. http://www.weaver-mounts.com/products/grandSlam.aspx

Tim

http://www.centerfirecentral.com/lapping.html

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #21 on:** September 21, 2008, 01:51:01 PM »

Thanks Tim... I found them on the website...They are the windage adjustable one's.... What could be expected with a good trigger job for this gun? It has a heavy pull..Dont seem to notice much creep..seems pretty crisp at the break... Just pretty heavy....This gs ring thing is a eatin at me already.... Gonna cause me to miss the target entirely now... LOL Thanks Drop

quickdtoo · « **Reply #22 on:** September 21, 2008, 01:56:11 PM »

DIY trigger help can be found in the FAQs and Help sticky, it's easy to get a 3-3½lb trigger, or you can have H&R do a ~3½-4lb trigger job for free, or at least they used to, dunno if Remington will continue to offer them free, but they just did one free for another member in the last month. Any competent gunsmith can do a trigger job for $25-$50.

Tim

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #23 on:** September 22, 2008, 02:30:13 PM »

Ok..I am a worry wart...I pulled the top's off the ring's to check them..Only one tiny little spec on the scope..Like a grain of sand was there when I tightened them up. What would you recomend from here..I have always had good luck with Warne rings. My favorite is Leupold. Never had any trouble that I know of.. That's why I favor them. I have never lapped in any ring's. I have always just mounted the scope up and went shooting. I try to make sure the scope fits in and out of the rings ok before I put the top's on.I like the way the Warne has 2 screw's top and bottom.. But I not well versed in this..But I am a fast learner. So Tim, What would you advise...Lap the GS in with some 800 or 1000 grit paper.. Or just order up the Warne..And I had a thought..Could one use 1 layer of teflon tape around the scope tube to protect it from damage? Thanks Drop

quickdtoo · « **Reply #24 on:** September 22, 2008, 07:08:20 PM »

Warne makes good rings, I'm just not fond of vertical split rings, I have one set mounted, they're impossible to lap with a conventional lapping rod. I've used pressure sensitive labels to line the bottom ring which provides some cushion to protect the scope and prevent it from slipping under recoil, much like Burris' "friction paper" they provide with their rings.

Tim

12ptdroptine · « **Reply #25 on:** September 26, 2008, 04:07:40 PM »

Got my new Warne rings today..on tomorrow and to the range Sunday