Ejector Problem not Addressed

[WoodyP]

I have a SB2 Handi-Ultra barrel in 25-06 that has never ejected reliably.  This is my third experience with handis, and they have all had ejection problems.  The 25-06 is a tackdriver, but the ejector fails to reach the extractor groove in the cartridge.  I have polished the chamber, put a BB behind spring, polished parts.  I think that the ejector latch, (piece that the two pins go thru) isn't tall enough.  I might be wrong.  I called to try and get a new one, but the Rem. people said I would have to go to Numrich as it was a discontinued part.  I believe that the same part is used on all the shotguns, but that was their story.
My advice is to steer clear of non-rimmed rounds in the handi, and even then I myself wouldn't trust the extraction or ejection.  I  was going to purchase a .500 S&W barrel for a bear hunt, but with a poor design, and poor customer service, I've had it.  I refuse to peddle this rifle off on someone the way a Greybeard regular did to me, so if you can help, please do so.
Thanks
Woody

[quickdtoo]

Brownell's sells all the parts for H&R ejector barrels, although they list the lifter button separately, you most likely have a broken or missing ejector latch spring/lifter button. The parts are shown in the FAQs, a small spring from a hardware store should work for the spring, a cut down nail will work for the button if it's missing. Shotguns don't use the button, but do have the spring.

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/ns/Schematics/SchemMFg.aspx?schemid=676

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=7090&title=EJECTOR%20LIFT%20BUTTON

I think that the ejector latch, (piece that the two pins go thru) isn't tall enough.  I might be wrong.  I called to try and get a new one, but the Rem. people said I would have to go to Numrich as it was a discontinued part.  I believe that the same part is used on all the shotguns, but that was their story.

That's more misinfo from the new CS people, the ejector latch is the same part used on all of their break barrel guns, they just don't have parts yet, they're probably still organizing them after being shipped from Gardner.

Tim

[petemi]

Woody, I can't help you bud, except to tell you that you've done more with yours than I have with mine.  I just traded a .45-70 ejector for an extractor with a fellow member.  The one I traded works every time, all the time, but I literally hate ejectors.  I just like to know the case is right there for me to pull out with my fingers.  My '06 ejector is absolutely terrible.  I wouldn't dump it on an enemy.  It's stainless, and I have a blued one for sale that I have never shot.  I think I'll put the blue one on and try it.  It is an ejector also, but it may do better.  I've never had a problem with extractors, but I don't own a .25-06 in either.  The stainless '06 will be my last ejector, and I would convert it before I'd dump it on someone.

[WoodyP]

The button and spring are both in my barrel, and I've tried 2 ejectors.  I think I'm just stuck with a useless rifle.  Cutting a notch in the face of the barrel to extract cases, is about as extremely crude fix as I can imagine.  For cheap rifles, I will now buy Stevens 200's, accurate, strong action, easily fixed trigger, can stock it anyway you want, and can easily make switch barrels.  We should have a site dedicated just for them.  Oh, you have a second shot too, for when more than one coyote comes in,(or when you miss).  Handi-Ultra pain-in-the-xxx.
Woody

[lonewolf5348]

I did have a few problems with my 30-06 ejector but I did remove it from the underlug and seem the factory hand the spring bent a little:I did use 1500 wet @ dry on all metal parts fixed the spring greased and reassembled the parts and never had any more problems with the 06
I have to say I have the extractor on the 38-55 and it runs smooth as glass not a problem on that rifle;I also have to say action closes up smooth no need for any additional pressure then needed and it never ever pop open on me
My 45-70 B.C> did pop a few times and the spent cases did catch my forehead a few times

[quickdtoo]

Woody, the latch spring may be too short, stretch it a little to give it a little more lift. A good spring is .315" tall, the end of the ejector latch is .109", the lift button is .170" tall, if any of the parts are much less than that, it needs to be replaced. When the action is open or the barrel is removed from the frame, you should be able to press the ejector down(away from the center line of the bore) to compress the latch spring just enough to allow chambering a round , if there's no movement, the spring, latch or possibly the ejector/underlug is defective.

Tim

[MSP Ret]

I would also suggest checking to see if the ejector button fits easily and freely in the hole in the barrel lug and that it can easily be pushed all the way up by the lifter spring (no burrs). As quick said, check the length of both the lifter button and the lifter button spring as well....<><....   

[jw1044]

Woody, I sent you a PM.

Thanks

[WoodyP]

Thanks guys, both for letting an old man vent, and for the good help.
God Bless,
Woody