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Hey all... I havn't been on all that much this year... things have been busy, and I also have been messing with a few other things. Let me wander a bit and then connect it all to cannons. Please bear with me.

First thing, I got into antique lanterns. I am surounded by them. I even built this and planted it in my front yard. It is an 1890-ish kerosene street lamp.



I have also been playing with pyro stuff a bit. Learned alot. Made my own black powder and everything. It is a bit of a hastle, but a learning experience worth trying.

Anyway, lanterns use wick. Wick comes in a variety of sizes and is made in a variety of materials. It is designed to "suck up liquids". We make slowmatch by soaking cores of various types in KNO3 solution, right? I played with some lantern wick and discovered it makes awesome slowmatch. I found a wholesale source of it in long lengths as well.

Check out  http://www.wickstore.com/roundoilwick.html  . I have tried their #603, #804, CRKnit 1-4, CRKnit 7-16, CRKnit 1-2. It all works awesome as slowmatch. The thicker sizes burn slower and hotter. I have settled on the CRKnit 7-16 myself, as it fits thru the 1/2 inch copper tubing that I made my linsock head out of. It won't easliy slide thru a complicated 1/2 inch tubing assembly, but is will make it easily thru a few inches of it with a "Tee" fitting in the middle. They sell sample packs if one wants to play with different sizes. I found that soaking the stuff in an 16 parts water to 1 part "Grants Stump Remover" by volume solution for 12 hours or so yield a 7/16 inch cord that burns less than a foot an hour. I add food coloring to my solution to make it easier to tell how good a job I did. Unlike typical cotton rope, the saturation of solution is very uniform, even after drying.


Some much for talking about street lamps, on to what I learned playing with pyro stuff....

Like cannon people, pyro people use quickmatch. They use lots of it. They use long lengths of it, and reliablity is really important.

In the past, I have tried really hard to get black powder slurry to soak into the center of cotton string. It doesn't want to go. It just coats the outside, no matter how hard I try. What the pyro people often do is "unwind" the strands with an electric drill, coat all the strands in an  unwound state, wind it backup a little, reocoat to build up a thick coating, and the result is a heavily saturated quickmatch.

I also found out something else. I had noticed that the quality of my quickmatch was deteriorating. It just wasn't working as well as it did when I started making the stuff. I had been using the same container of black powder slurry for quite a while. There was still stuff in there, so I kept using it.

What I did not know was that, out of the three ingredients that make up black powder, only KNO3 is really water soluable The rest are in the slurry but not desolved in the water. The first batches of quickmatch no doubt had quite a bit of KNO3 soaked into the cotton string. Subsequent batches had less and less KNO3, as it had left the slurry. All that was left was sulpher and Charcoal, no oxidizer. So, if your match starts working poorly, dump your slurry and make up a new batch. Don't forget to add 10% dextrin to the BP slurry.

You can improve on the quality of the match, as well as extend the usefullness of your BP slurry by first running the cotton string thru the same solution that you make slowmatch with. It will partly to mostly saturate the core of the cotton string with KNO3. This reduced the amount of KNO3 leatching from the BP slurry. It also does make a better quickmatch in general as there is a bit extra oxidizer deep in the core of the string.

String - The more strands the better. I found a source of very fine 3-strand cotton string. I wind up putting 4 lengths of it togther to make 1/8 inch quickmatch. That adds of to 12 strands of heavily saturated string... really hot.  If anyone wants to use what I did, they can call John Reilly at 314-707-4353 or email him at strbeam@sbcglobal.net . He sells it to the pyro trade, so you don't have to be evasive about what you are up to when you call him.  Shipping may vary, but I bought two rolls for $30 shipping included from him. Each roll has over 12,000 feet of three ply string on it. I think I am all set with cotton string for a while ;-)


Nitrocellous lacquer ("NC Lacquer)- a "paint" of sorts. a highly flamable paint. I'll get to the point in a minute. It can be made in different ways, but the easiest way to make it is to desolve a single base smokeless powder in acetone. Make a fairly saturated solution. It takes a couple days to fully desolve. When it is done, it has the consistancy of maple syrup. When looking for single based smokeless powder, look at IMR brand, and don't bother with anything made by Hercules. Hercules is ALL double based powder. Most (but not all) IMR powder is single based.

What can you do with "NC Laquer" you ask? Have you ever tried forever to get a piece of cannon fuse to light with slowmatch? Sometimes it just doesn't want to light. Take your cannon fuse, dunk the "start" end into some NC laquer, and then immediately dunk it into 2 or 3  or 4F BP. It will dry in less than a minute, and your will habe a blob of bp on the end of the cannon fuse that will take fire super easily. You can put a bit of it on the other end as well to improve what happens as the fuse passes the flame to the charge. I know I have once in a while not seated an aluminum foil wraped charge correctly, and had a misfire. A blob of BP on the business and of a cannon fuse (or quickmatch for that matter) will often burn right thru the foil bag.

Enough rambling for now... gotta go out and light something.  ;)

Rick

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Re: tidbits of random information related to slowmatch and quickmatch
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 05:17:06 AM »
     Rick,  you certainly have been busy!  Your street lamp is really good looking.  What is the burn rate of the wick used in them?  Would it last all night on one one setting or was it automatically fed with a clockwork mechanism throughout the hours of darkness?

     We have quite a few new members now, Rick, perhaps you could answer the following questions to help some of them get up to speed on this method of powder charge ignition.
                       1)   How do you use quick match in cannon firing?
                       
                       2)   Why do you use it?

                       3)   What makes quickmatch quick?

                       4)   Does the quick match you use for cannon firing have a kraftpaper sleeve around it?  Why or why not?

                       5)   When firing mortars with a slowmatch in the linstock, where do you place the linstock when you are loading the mortar with loose powder?

     We are also interested to know exactly how you made you black powder, especially the method you used for making the charcoal; tell us you did not cheat and buy some of that airfloat, lab-grade charcoal!  Maybe a separate thread would be necessary for this perennial favorite topic. 

     Thanks for the excellent information on slowmatch as well, particularly the sources of supply.  You saved us lots of screen-time by passing on this info.

Regards,

Tracy and Mike
Smokin' my pipe on the mountings, sniffin' the mornin'-cool,
I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

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Re: tidbits of random information related to slowmatch and quickmatch
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2008, 06:57:16 AM »
Hi Mike and Tracy,

lets see how many of your questions I can answer...

Wicks don't really burn all that much. They just pass the kerosene up from the tank to the burner. The kerosene vaporizes due to the close proximity to the flame, and the kerosene vapor is what burns. The flame remains quite constant overnight with no fiddling around. About the only time that the wick would actually burn is when the tank runs dry, somthing that I try to avoid happening. A single filling of the than will last about 48 hours or so if I keep the flame turned down a bit below max setting.

How do you use quickmatch? - quickmatch is something like fuse, but it is "quick". Quickmatch is "blackmatch" inserted into a tube. Paper straws work well as tubes. Blackmatch is just cotton string saturated with Black Powder. It burns in the air just like common cannon fuse. When confined inside a tube it burns much faster. From a practical point of view it burns instantaneously. So, you use it just like cannon fuse, but ignition is very quick. You can get a bit of a delay if you want it by having some of the blackmatch stick up out of the paper straw. It will burn like regular fuse untill it gets to the straw, and then things happen pretty much instantly after that.

Why do you use it ?- a number of reasons I guess. Number 1 is that you can make it yourself, and make it in different sizes if you need smaller or want bigger for some specific gun vent. Number 2 is that it is instant. You may or may not want instant, depending on what you are up to. A danger of using a common long delay cannon fuse is that alot can happen between the time that you light it and the time it goes off. Something could wander out into the impact area in the 10 or 15 seconds that you are waiting for a cannon fuse to burn down. An instant ignition gives more control over the exact instant of firing the gun.

What makes quickmatch quick is the confinement of the flame front inside of the tube. The pressure of the burning powder shoots the flame down the tube very fast... 100's of feet per second.

I put the black match inside of paper straws. A craft paper tube would be about the same idea. I was able to find a craft supplier that sells  3/16 OD paper straws in bulk, and it beats making my own out of craft paper. However, there is no reason why one could not do that. The pyros don't need a round tub for their use, so they use craft paper and make a flat tube by folding the paper over a few times and gluing the final fold.

Where do you place the linstock when loading? The bottom end of my linstock I sharpened to a point. When I am not using it I just stick it in the ground about 10 feet off to the side.

Making black powder... a complicated subject. I will say that, yes I bought commercially made airfloat charcoal. It was really cheap, and saved a lot of work. I guess I could have made my own, but there are only 36 hours in a day. I used the "ball mill" process, using a cheapo harbor freight rock tumbler as a ball mill. There is more than one way to do it, and many good books on the subject. I will refer all the serious details to the people who write the books. www.skylighter.com carries several good books on the subject. They also have a monthly newsletter archive with lots of good stuff in the issues, some of which may interest cannon people as well.

Of course, some people make instant burning fuses by coating the sticky side of scotch tape with 4F BP, rolling up the tape with the BP on the inside, and sliding that inside of a straw instead of blackmatch. It works really well too! VERY instant in fact. If you want fast, it works  great. For me, I kind of like the 1 second or so delay that you can get out of conventional qucikmatch by sticking the match up out of the paper tube a bit. It gives me time to back up a step, look downrange, and see what is happening to the target.

Rick


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Re: tidbits of random information related to slowmatch and quickmatch
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2008, 01:41:49 PM »
     More excellent information useful to all of us.  We particularly like your mention of the speed of quickmatch:

 An instant ignition gives more control over the exact instant of firing the gun.

What makes quickmatch quick is the confinement of the flame front inside of the tube. The pressure of the burning powder shoots the flame down the tube very fast... 100's of feet per second.

 For me, I kind of like the 1 second or so delay that you can get out of conventional qucikmatch by sticking the match up out of the paper tube a bit. It gives me time to back up a step, look downrange, and see what is happening to the target.

Rick

     If we ever decided to give up on 1/16th inch, super hot, FUSE INC., cannon fuse, we would probably make some quickmatch as you described.  Your 1 second delay achieved by pulling a little of the blackmatch out of the tube sounds like a great idea to us; firing is still almost instant.  The big thing we all have to remember is not to leave ANY QUICKMATCH lying around if children have the slightest access to it.  It can produce the nastiest accidents if used by kids or ignorant adults.  We would make it up just prior to use and burn any leftovers.

     We also like your explanation on how to light regular 1/8" or 3/32" cannon fuse easily with a Linstock's slowmatch.  This sounds like a winner, and the difficulty experienced by lots of folks trying to accomplish this safe firing practice is what makes most people, us included, looking for the propane torches.  23 of 26 competitors on the gun line at a Casper Cannon Shoot we attended used these torches and standard cannon fuse; the ones that didn't used friction primers.  You can expect very windy conditions here though, not at all like in the woods back east.

Thanks again, Rick!

Mike and Tracy
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I walks in my old brown gaiters along o' my old brown mule,
With seventy gunners be'ind me, an' never a beggar forgets
It's only the pick of the Army that handles the dear little pets - 'Tss! 'Tss!

From the poem  Screw-Guns  by Rudyard Kipling

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Re: tidbits of random information related to slowmatch and quickmatch
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2008, 03:46:17 PM »
When not using Linstock, I use Zippo MPL lighters. They are way better than the cheapo red and white BBQ lighters that they seem to sell everywhere. However, they tend to be a bit finicky in humid/damp weather.

The new "Zippo Blu" lighter recently released resembles the old lighter fluid lighter that Zippo made an icon out of. It uses a standard Zippo flint/spark wheel, but runs on butane instead of lighter fluid. It lights under almost any condition if the wind is not terrible. My only complaint with it is that if you hold it the way you normally feel you should that when lighting cannon fuse your hand is right where the fuse wants to jet. Minor burns are virtually guaranteed.

So, I use my Zippo's to light slowmatch, and the slomatch is way out there on the end of my 4 foot long linstock. I burn myself often enough heating with wood in the winter, so I enjoy keeping my hands burn-free in the summer cannon months.  :D

The quickmatch outside of the paper tubes is not all that scarely... about the same as cannon fuse.  It only burns viciously when confined inside a paper tube. I put it into the tube at the last second. In fact, I insert the paper straw into the vent first, and then slide the fuse or match down into the straw.

I keep my various cut fuses in short sections of 2" PVC pipe, with a pvc pipe cap on one end, and a pvc to threaded pipe adapter on the ohter end, with a threaded pvc pipe plug screwed into the end of it. It keeps the stuff dry and out of harms way. I write on the outside with a sharpie what is in it - type of fuse and also the length. I keep the pre-cut lengths of paper straw inside the tubes with the fuses for the sake of convienince.

Rick

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Re: tidbits of random information related to slowmatch and quickmatch
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2008, 07:34:42 AM »
There is another stump remover out there that is not KNO3.  Bonide Stump out is sodium pyrosulfite and when burned it makes sulfer dioxide a toxic acidic gas. 

Now if I can find some KNO3 locally.

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Re: tidbits of random information related to slowmatch and quickmatch
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2008, 01:56:42 PM »
I bought some "Green Light" stump remover from HomeDepot. I remember thinking it was not cheap but I don't remember what I paid for it. It was KNO3, I tested it by mixing it with sugar and lighting it. :)
Also "K-Power" fertilizer is KNO3, but I haven't looked for any locally. I know of a nursery that raises evergreens and they buy it in pallet loads.

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Re: tidbits of random information related to slowmatch and quickmatch
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 06:36:33 AM »
You can also order KNO3 from Skylighter for a reasonable price as long as you want it in 5# increments.