Author Topic: Would painting my receiver with duracoat affect getting new barrels from H&R?? (Read 2666 times)

STUMPJMPR · « **on:** May 14, 2008, 08:03:24 AM »

Would painting my receiver with duracoat affect getting new barrels from H&R??

trotterlg · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2008, 01:30:41 PM »

Probably not. Remember, you cannot paint the breach face, or inside the receiver, or the hinge pin. You then end up with edges where the paint stops, which leads to the paint chipping off at that point. Plus, I have it on good authority, that you may go directly to hell for putting paint on any rifle. Get it blued or parkerized or some other proper rifle finish. Larry

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2008, 01:37:59 PM »

I thought about parkerizing....I have done it myself in the past....Duracoat is a paint made specifically for firearms....It is used on H&K handguns...Bluing doesn't offer much protection in the environment i'm going to subject this poor gun too...

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2008, 02:11:36 PM »

Quote from: STUMPJMPR on May 14, 2008, 01:37:59 PM

I thought about parkerizing....I have done it myself in the past....Duracoat is a paint made specifically for firearms....It is used on H&K handguns...Bluing doesn't offer much protection in the environment i'm going to subject this poor gun too...

Where would that be HELL?

Just kidding. By the way I knew that comment was coming from Larry before I even opened the thread. Dale

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2008, 02:33:58 PM »

I read a post about that already....He told the guy to take it to church with him and pray for forgiveness....lol...I plan on carrying it on my 4 wheeler and my boat....Its just a pardner shotgun....

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #5 on:** May 14, 2008, 02:37:57 PM »

That is just one of very many posts of his non belief of painting guns. Dale

Fred M · « **Reply #6 on:** May 14, 2008, 03:27:10 PM »

Painting a shotgun or a rifle is the worst kind of mutilation and devaluation.

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 14, 2008, 03:53:10 PM »

Well I guess all I can add to this is , Forgive ME Father For I Have Sinned .

And I liked it .

stimpy

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #8 on:** May 14, 2008, 03:58:00 PM »

Fire 3 rounds and all is forgiven, my child. (looks good to me.) DP.

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 14, 2008, 04:08:56 PM »

Thanks DP , I like it too .

Stumpjmpr

The outside finish should not affect the fitting process any , you may have to touch it up after their done with the fitting though .

stimpy

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #10 on:** May 14, 2008, 04:23:47 PM »

I see nothing wrong with paint as long as the right type is used.....duracoat is a firearm finish....Sometimes the traditional finishes just don't cut it....This stuff is tough and once its on you can drop it down a mountain and it still looks good....I had good luck with the stuff....It goes on so then it can be used in areas where you have moving parts with no ill effects.....Some guns do deserve a traditional finish...However the rusty pardner shotgun i picked up used for 80 bucks i don't think it will mind as long as it quits rusting....Stimpy how do you like the choate stocks?

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 14, 2008, 04:39:42 PM »

SJ

At first I was not sure if I liked them or not but once I put a few rounds down the 22-250 I was impressed with how well it took down the recoil , so over all I give them an 8 on the scale of 1 - 10 , I also like the fact that you can ajust the LOP by adding or removing the spacers .

stimpy

Winter Hawk · « **Reply #12 on:** May 15, 2008, 09:50:47 AM »

I didn't like the bright, shiny nickel plating on the Handi which I bought with a SS .243 barrel, so it got the black spray paint treatment. Rust-Oleum, if I remember right. The factory didn't seem to mind when they fitted my shotgun barrels & .30-06 barrel....

-WH-

striker525 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 15, 2008, 10:20:20 AM »

The dura-coat is actually better than any paint you can buy. They say the longer it is on a weapon the better it gets. I have a Mossy 12ga that is coated with it and I have taken some pretty nasty spills and have yet to scratch through it. So to put it on a gun that would see a boat or a four wheeler would probably be the best thing for it. I would also see about a synthetic stock and have them both done at the same time. JMHO

Dave

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #14 on:** May 15, 2008, 10:46:03 AM »

I know this is a terrible thing to do but i plan on painting the stock with the duracoat to.....Its a little better than pallet wood....I know i am definitely going to hell for painting the stock...

NFG · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2008, 03:40:39 PM »

You could say that all wood NEF stocks are "painted". They are a white semi hardwood painted to look like walnut...as is a large part of of the lower end stocks of today. You could say that hand rubbing with oil is nothing more or less than a grown up child hand "painting" with oil just like he did when he was in kindergarten and got to "play" with paints. You could also say that bluing or phosphatizing is nothing more "painting" with a chemical or with rust. You could say "This is MY toy and your opinion of it and what I do with it means squat doodly". You could say what you think about "painting" stocks and metal is dark age stuff, this is the 21st century and we have "progressed". You could say all kinds of things...most of which are only opinion, have zero value and who will care a 100 years from now. You could also keep your zero value opinion to yourself, keep an open mind, congratulate the "painter" on his job well done and maybe drag yourself into the modern age where nothing is the same as it was even yesterday.

By the way...Nice Job...you gave me some ideas. I bought some of that bright yellow Fusion spray paint and webbing to do a synthetic stock....I am really getting tired of all these UGLY BLACK stocks. Henry Ford is long dead and so should be his "You can have any color car you want....as long as it is BLACK" mentality. Hahahahahahahahah...and I think He** is full of closet gun painters so come over and join the crowd....let those fundamentalist noseintheair yahoos have their own little miniscule world.

LOL

'Njoy

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2008, 03:46:00 PM »

Ordered a ton of coal to keep yua warm, save me a set as I think I'm going to do it to a few select guns as well. Got an old marlin 30-30 that has such a terrible mess out of some fools attempt at cold blueing, I get "pee-shivers" when I look at it!

DP.

canon6 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2008, 03:54:42 PM »

I have been using Brownells grit paint for almost 15 years.The first scout rifle I built is still in use and just last year had to be repainted.I will now go and make peace with the BLUING GODS,for I have truly sinned

Doug

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2008, 03:56:39 PM »

The duracoat is 1000 times better than cold bluing....You are more than correct about the cheap stocks...The stain is mixed in with the finish....Its similar to the one step sealer/stain they sell

Ireload2 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 15, 2008, 05:02:36 PM »

Quote from: trotterlg on May 14, 2008, 01:30:41 PM

Probably not. Remember, you cannot paint the breach face, or inside the receiver, or the hinge pin. You then end up with edges where the paint stops, which leads to the paint chipping off at that point. Plus, I have it on good authority, that you may go directly to hell for putting paint on any rifle. Get it blued or parkerized or some other proper rifle finish. Larry

I found a 1900 Steyr carbine at a gun show that had the stock painted with black wrinkle paint. I I ever learn the name of the guy that did it he be on his way pronto.

NFG · « **Reply #20 on:** May 16, 2008, 06:08:07 AM »

HahahahahahahahahahaLOL...I have to laugh. Of course most of us are traditionalists when it comes to certain rifles such as a commercial Mauser or a Drilling. Those beauties require a perfect AAAA Claro Walnut, perfect Fleur-de-lis checkering and deep rust blued the old way metal.

But that didn't stop me from opening up a can of "spray spackle" on a old, rusted up military Mauser. I'm just about to attack a rebuilt 9.3x62 mauser with some galvanized or one of the heat on coatings to cover the rust spots and make it into a mean and narly, tough as nails, briar patch shooter. The stock is ready to be sanded out after a coat of wood hardener and the whole thing, scope and all, will get a coat of epoxy paint, webbing paint, then a clear coat. I don't like to swap a beautiful piece of wood off for a synthetic stock every time I head for the sticks, so the wood doesn't get munched and my guns aren't wall queens for others to look at, although I do have one that stays on the wall just for that purpose.

Hey Ol' Debble...stuff it in yourear.

FUNCTIONALITY RULES....

LOL

'Njoy

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2008, 07:28:33 AM »

GALVANIZED.....I laughed for 10 minutes....

ECV Slick · « **Reply #22 on:** May 16, 2008, 11:34:57 AM »

Quote from: stimpylu32 on May 14, 2008, 03:53:10 PM

Well I guess all I can add to this is , Forgive ME Father For I Have Sinned .

And I liked it .

stimpy

I like it! I also painted my "Ultra Varmint" - but I left the metal alone. I just wanted it to look more like my Savage 10 FP.

I used to cringe at the thought of painting a gun, but not anymore... The Krylon "fusion" paints (made for painting plastic) work really well.

NFG · « **Reply #23 on:** May 16, 2008, 05:43:53 PM »

Yeah...Galvanized works great...I sprayed a Fox side by side double barreled 12 ga some 30 odd years ago...my dukgitr...got tired of it rusting up while I watched it and waited for something to fly by. Galvanized spray, a couple coats of matte black rustoleum and a couple coats of clear Varathane Satin...the good stuff. Just had to dump the water out of the barrel now and then and keep a coating of rust proofer in the tubes between hunts. It was still going strong when I gave it up as graduation present a few years ago. She didn't seem to mind the spray job...now I gotta worry about getting my tail kicked everytime we go shooting. Life just isn't fair when your belly gets bigger than your butt and your glasses keep getting lost on your forehead.

Got a can eyeballing that ugly Mauser right now, but I think I will use Brownells Gun-Kote instead. I'm getting too old and puny to open up a can of Whupazz everytime someone snickers at my morpho-dyte experiments.

Finished spraying the NEF Synthetic butt stock with Krylon Fusion today...Not sure if I will have a problem seeing the BRIGHT YELLOW coloration if it ever gets dropped in the autumn leaves. Haw-haw-haw. The mauser stock is ready for a coat of Kryon Fusion over the plastic sealer...I'm just a paint'n phool these days. LOL

'Njoy

GregP42 · « **Reply #24 on:** May 17, 2008, 02:01:54 PM »

I say paint them if ya got them!

And don't think I wouldn't paint another one if I got the wild hair again

Greg

STUMPJMPR · « **Reply #25 on:** May 17, 2008, 02:32:50 PM »

Greg what kinda paint did you use on that stock i like that...By the way is that a slug gun or just the forend from a pardner

6Shooter · « **Reply #26 on:** May 17, 2008, 04:38:03 PM »

Paint it! You'll fall in love with your rifle all over again! Don't forget to paint that high dollar scope too. No sense painting the gun and not the scope.
And the crows and coyotes won't see it until their floating up to eternity.
I've painted my handi-rifle too but I don't have any picts of it....yet.

melchior · « **Reply #27 on:** May 17, 2008, 08:01:41 PM »

Last winter I painted my 17HMR Sportster using Brownell's Alumi-Hyde, and it seems to be holding up well.
Sorry about the lighting, but the metal parts are O.D.Green and the plastic is Earth Brown.

GregP42 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 18, 2008, 01:48:02 PM »

Quote from: STUMPJMPR on May 17, 2008, 02:32:50 PM

Greg what kinda paint did you use on that stock i like that...By the way is that a slug gun or just the forend from a pardner

Stupjmpr,

That is the krylon ultra-flat camo paint. No, that is not a slug gun, that is a 220 Swift I had made out of a 223 Ultra barrel. The forend is an older style I bought from a member here on GBO. That is 4 different colors on part of that, I did a base coat, then got part of a limb off the spruce tree in the back yard and shot paint through the limb onto the stock.

Greg

NFG · « **Reply #29 on:** May 18, 2008, 03:57:16 PM »

Greg...What kind of velocity are you getting from that 220 S? I have a set of HI daller RCBS competitionsdies and 6 boxes of Hornday loads I need to start using up left over from a Ruger 220 S target model I got rid of, plus a standard .223 donor barrel that needs a new chamber.

Thanks