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Offline rex6666

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reloader
« on: May 11, 2008, 07:39:24 AM »
I can see a reloader in my future.
Went to Bass pro (not the best place to buy ammo) yesterday 2 boxes 204 $18.00 each 1-box 325gr 45/70 hornady $27.00, 1 Box 405gr 45/70 remmington $32.00.
could have waited but just got the 45/70 barrel and everyone knows you can not have a  gun with no ammo for it. On average what does it cost to reload a box of 45/70
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Re: reloader
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2008, 09:18:16 AM »
Wow you ask a lot here. It depends very much on the bullet you decide to use. The bullets are the most expensive component. Let's assume you pay $.25 each for bullets, you can pay a lot more or some less. That is about the cost of 300 grain Remington's. The primer will be around $.03, powder around $.15(175 loads/pound) This depends on the powder and how much you pay. I figured 40 grain loads @ $25/pound. Cases can be used around 10 times depending how hard you are on them. If you pay $50 per hundred and you get 10 reloads that will work out to $.05 each. Add them up and it would cost some where around $.48 each or $9.60/20. Just rough figuring.  I like to reload and it is a hobby in itself. Good Luck and Good Shooting.
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Re: reloader
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2008, 10:56:57 AM »
Or in the case of the 204. $.03 for primers, $.10 for the powder charge,$.11 for Midway Dogtowns or $.24 a shot not including the cost of brass. Brass life can be extended by annealing and neck sizing when possible. By the time you pay taxes on $18.00 your looking at a buck a shot for factory ammo. Of course bullet choice is the variable. For the 45-70 you also have the option of using cast bullets and maybe even casting your own. Besides it's a fun hobby. Dave

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Re: reloader
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 11:37:25 AM »
I shoot a lot of cast bullets that I have cast myself.  There are cost's involved in getting started casting but these amortize out before long if you shoot a lot.  I would think, at todays cast bullet prices, if a person were shooting less than a couple thousand rounds a year it would be more practical to buy the bullets.  With the cost of lead going up either way it's still getting more expensive.

With the lead I have on hand it probably costs around a cent a bullet for propane, flux, lube and such to make bullets up.  Don't know what the rising lead cost will do but it'll be awhile before I have to find out, I have a bunch of wheelweight metal and lead from a hospital X-Ray room tear out to send downrange before I have to buy any.

I have 45-70 brass that has been reloaded over twenty times but each lot of brass is dedicated to one rifle.  By doing this the load is accurate for the gun it's fired in and I only resize enough of the case to hold the bullet.  Since most of my shooting is done in single shot rifles I work up loads that do not have to be crimped and this saves the brass from splitting at the mouth from excessive working.  For the lever guns I typically will get ten to fifteen reloads before the brass is bad.  In the 50-70, where the pressures are very low, some brass has been fired over fifty times.  Probably with light bullets and mild loads this could be duplicated in most any straight case for which quality brass is available.  As a test I once took a single 32-40 case and loaded it at the bench as I fired it.  I did not resize at all, just replaced the primer, put in a dipper of powder and pushed a lubed bullet in the mouth.  The case was positioned the same each shot in the chamber, powder settled to the rear of the case and then fired.  After 120 times the case was still in fine shape and didn't need to be trimmed.  When I sectioned this case and compared it to a once fired case from the same box there was no discernible difference.

Casting bullets is an interesting part of reloading and can be about as simple or involved as any other part of the hobby.  It's nice if you can find someone that makes a bullet you want to try and get some samples prior to buying a mold but this is not always possible.  I have found the inexpensive Lee molds to be very usable and user friendly.  Since they cost, typically, one third to one half the cost of most molds it's not so devastating when you make a bad choice, of which I have several on the mold shelf.

Some of the hidden costs of casting include having to put in a good exhaust fan in your casting area, missing out on a lot of really exciting TV shows and the wife knowing where she can find you when the "Hunny Dew" list starts getting long.  Believe me it's easier and cheaper to go to the track and spend time in a bar.

With the continuing rising cost of ammunition and the very real possibility of limited supplies being available due to political concerns it would seem prudent to get into the reloading hobby and being sure a reasonable supply of components was kept on hand.

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Re: reloader
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 11:43:55 AM »
Here's a cost per round calculator you can use by plugging in current component costs.

Tim

http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp
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Re: reloader
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 11:46:26 AM »
Tim

Thank you, you just simplified my life. ;D

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Re: reloader
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 12:01:10 PM »
I need a new nite time hobby, in the process of building a new work bench in the garage, think i will make allowances for a press just in case.
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Re: reloader
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2008, 02:22:23 PM »
I enjoy "plinking" with my Winny 1886, so I shoot the Oregon Trail "laser cast" bullets in 300gr.  I load 16gr of Unique and use a 1-inch square of dacron "quilt-filler" to keep the light charge in position.  I never use heavy or compressible fillers as I know too many folks that have "ringed" their chamber using such dense fillers.  This load's chrony average is 1358 FPS out of my rifle.

Anyways, I buy my reloading components in bulk, so I get away for roughly .20 cents a shot for this load (at current prices for components) but my real cost is less since I'm still shooting large stocks of components that I bought a couple years ago.
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Re: reloader
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2008, 10:57:05 AM »
Very nice! Thanks for the info Tim,you always amaze me with all the info you have.
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