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454 Casull Reamer- 11 Minutes Start to Finish
« on: May 11, 2008, 02:23:25 AM »
Got the reamer yesterday. Looked up in my Machinery Handbook to get some idea of feeds/speeds to use reaming my 45 Colt barrel. Not real sure I like what I read.
I was playing around last night and discovered that a .454 Casull round will chamber in my Handi and the rifle will close and lock up, which surprised me.
It ain't gonna take much reaming.
Is it best to do by hand or use a drill or drill press? What is the best fluid to use?

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Re: Got my 454 Casull Reamer, Now What?
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2008, 03:09:20 AM »
Alan -- Very interesting to hear that a .454 Casull cartridge will chamber in your .45 LC rifle. Does your .454 reamer go all the way in to the chamber?

Sounds like the situation with so many .357 Mag Handis, including mine: .360 Dan Wesson chambers just fine. When I got some .357 Maximum brass to work with, I trimmed ten pieces until they fit the factory chamber, and they measured longer than .360 DW factory brass. That's when I decided to go ahead and lengthen the chamber to .357 Max.

I used a hand tap wrench and generous amounts of cutting oil, just the Oatey oil used for thread cutting. First I compared a trimmed Max case that fit the factory chamber to a full-length Max case, and proceeded to cut very slowly and with little pressure. As the rim of the reamer reached the barrel's existing rim, I slowed down even more, and just "feathered" it home, to avoid cutting the rim too deep. The leade of the rifling is so far out in the .357 factory chamber that the Max reamer only removed metal from the case mouth area, and none at all from the origin of the rifling.

You may not have to do any cutting at all. Let us know how deeply you have to seat bullets to chamber your loads. I am not able to seat any .35 caliber bullet far out enough to touch the rifling in my Max barrel, and have finally settled on seating at a crimp groove for the sake of durability in the field. When you're done, you should have a terrific little woods rifle for whitetails.
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Re: 454 Casull Reamer- 11 Minutes Start to Finish
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2008, 04:10:22 AM »
WOW

It took me a total of 11 minutes to turn my .45 Colt Handi into a .454 Casull Handi. Taking the gun apart, reaming the chamber, checking the fit, putting the gun back together. Used a large tap handle and cutting fluid. Very, very minimal amount of material removed, and only from the very end of the case mouth area.
Would've been 10 minutes but I dropped the forend screw and had to crawl around on the floor looking for it.
Kudo's to both NEF and 4D reamer rental. For a grand total of $200 I have a really neat little gun. ($150 for the used gun, $25 for the reamer, $100 for the barrel from NEF. Sold the barrel from the used gun for $75)

alan

p.s. Does make me wonder why NEF charges $100 more for the 45 Colt carbine than a standard Handi. The barrel I got is the carbine barrel and the stocks on the carbines I have looked at look just like the stock on my gun.



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Re: 454 Casull Reamer- 11 Minutes Start to Finish
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2008, 04:18:54 AM »
Alan

Nice job , now you can shoot 45 auto rin , 45 colt and 454's , if someone could come up with a clip on adapter to shoot 45 auto's you'd be all set .  ;D

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Re: 454 Casull Reamer- 11 Minutes Start to Finish
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2008, 11:24:31 AM »
I am talking about doing the reaming job. DO NOT USE A DRILL OR DRILL PRESS. You will more than likely ruin your chamber. Do it by hand, just make sure you never reverse the cutter, use plenty of cutting fluid and take it slowly, trying your best to keep it centered while turning by hand. If you use any kind of power except a properly set up lathe, you will make the mouth of the chamber too big and out of round. Good Luck and Good Shooting.
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Re: 454 Casull Reamer- 11 Minutes Start to Finish
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2008, 02:15:50 PM »
darn...now I'm going to have to go ahead with this. Had been thinking about it since a similar thread several months ago, but today I dropped a 454 empty in my carbine and found that it was just a few hundredths away from closing. Seems like cutting those last few passes would be pretty easy, and I'd close up any freebore and maybe make this thing shoot even better.

On that note, I'd prefer to use just the 454 brass for this rifle after I do the job, but I'd rather not be shooting full-power loads all the time (both for the rifle's sake and for my own.) Does anyone have any pet loads that work well out of the carbine barrel but at pressure levels closer to 45+p? Ideally something using Unique, Bullseye, H4227, or 2400 (I've 8 lbs of each, but I could go buy more powder.) I have lots of hardcast 255's and 300's, some plated 250's, and some 300gr XTP's.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: 454 Casull Reamer- 11 Minutes Start to Finish
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2008, 02:24:35 PM »

 I don't think you can shoot 45 auto rim in a 45 colt camber or a 454 camber,
 the rim is to thick to camber. just my thoughts from shooting auto rim in a 45 acp
 wheel gun. Marv.

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Re: 454 Casull Reamer- 11 Minutes Start to Finish
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2008, 02:55:25 PM »
Marv

Your right about the older Auto Rim ammo , the rim was .090 and the colt is .060 , the new ammo that is being loaded for the auto rim is running .070 to .075 and should work .

I was at my fav gun shop the other day and we got to talking about that very thing so we drug out some of the old stuff he had and compaired it to some new that he just got in , he has an old S&W that shoots the Auto Rim . And he still woln't sell it to me .  ::)

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