Opinions on 22 Mag rifles

[ironglow]

  Glanceblam;
     Possibly a revolver problem ? I have never had trouble with mag shells ejecting from my rifles, but my Taurus 941 is very stiff ejecting. GB suggests that the
    chambers need polishing...and I suspect he's right !

[Glanceblamm]

ironglow
Mine was geared more to the first lots of ammo when the WMR was new. I think that they were getting 2,100fps but had to tame them down to the 1,800fps range to solve sticky extraction problems

[LaOtto222]

I thought the classic 40 grain bullets were loaded in the 1900 fps range now out of a rifle.

[Glanceblamm]

I thought the classic 40 grain bullets were loaded in the 1900 fps range now out of a rifle.

That could very well be. I always stuck with the 40gr bullets rather than say the 33gr +V because I figure that the 40gr will have a bit more punch on the large groundhogs or Red Fox.

[valvesinmyhead]

40gr VS 33gr.

Load Data
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Name: 22 Mag CCI 40gr MaxiMag HP
Ballistic Coeff: 0.110
Bullet Weight: 40
Velocity: 1875
Target Distance: 100
Scope Height: 1.500
Temperature: 70
Altitude: 500

Ballistic Data
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Range  Elevation  Velocity   Energy     ETA         Drop      Max Y  10mph Wind Deflect
  0 yds   -1.50 in  1875 fps   312 fpe  0.000 sec    0.00 in  -1.50 in    0.00 in
 25 yds    0.13 in  1720 fps   263 fpe  0.042 sec    0.33 in  -0.51 in    0.36 in
 50 yds    1.02 in  1575 fps   220 fpe  0.088 sec    1.41 in  -0.23 in    1.38 in
 75 yds    1.05 in  1440 fps   184 fpe  0.137 sec    3.34 in   0.32 in    3.05 in
100 yds    0.00 in  1321 fps   155 fpe  0.192 sec    6.35 in   1.19 in    5.63 in
125 yds   -2.28 in  1217 fps   131 fpe  0.251 sec   10.59 in   2.46 in    8.99 in
150 yds   -6.04 in  1132 fps   114 fpe  0.315 sec   16.32 in   4.23 in   13.22 in
175 yds  -11.50 in  1065 fps   101 fpe  0.383 sec   23.74 in   6.55 in   18.21 in
200 yds  -18.84 in  1013 fps    91 fpe  0.456 sec   33.04 in   9.49 in   23.88 in
225 yds  -28.20 in   970 fps    84 fpe  0.531 sec   44.36 in  13.12 in   30.15 in
250 yds  -39.80 in   933 fps    77 fpe  0.610 sec   57.93 in  17.51 in   37.03 in
275 yds  -53.65 in   900 fps    72 fpe  0.692 sec   73.74 in  22.68 in   44.36 in
300 yds  -70.01 in   870 fps    67 fpe  0.777 sec   92.06 in  28.72 in   52.23 in
325 yds  -89.07 in   843 fps    63 fpe  0.865 sec  113.08 in  35.72 in   60.63 in
350 yds -110.89 in   818 fps    59 fpe  0.955 sec  136.87 in  43.72 in   69.51 in
375 yds -135.57 in   794 fps    56 fpe  1.048 sec  163.51 in  52.75 in   78.80 in
400 yds -163.44 in   771 fps    53 fpe  1.143 sec  193.34 in  62.95 in   88.61 in
425 yds -194.78 in   749 fps    50 fpe  1.242 sec  226.65 in  74.43 in   98.99 in
450 yds -229.66 in   729 fps    47 fpe  1.344 sec  263.49 in  87.22 in  109.87 in
475 yds -268.13 in   709 fps    45 fpe  1.449 sec  303.93 in 101.38 in  121.19 in
500 yds -310.30 in   689 fps    42 fpe  1.555 sec  348.05 in 116.96 in  132.93 in
525 yds -356.88 in   671 fps    40 fpe  1.666 sec  396.59 in 134.21 in  145.29 in
550 yds -408.10 in   653 fps    38 fpe  1.779 sec  449.78 in 153.25 in  158.27 in
575 yds -464.05 in   635 fps    36 fpe  1.896 sec  507.70 in 174.14 in  171.80 in
600 yds -524.84 in   618 fps    34 fpe  2.016 sec  570.44 in 196.92 in  185.86 in
625 yds -590.52 in   602 fps    32 fpe  2.139 sec  638.08 in 221.66 in  200.38 in
650 yds -661.85 in   586 fps    30 fpe  2.265 sec  711.37 in 248.65 in  215.54 in
675 yds -739.09 in   570 fps    29 fpe  2.394 sec  790.58 in 278.00 in  231.31 in
700 yds -822.95 in   554 fps    27 fpe  2.528 sec  876.41 in 310.00 in  247.82 in
725 yds -913.56 in   539 fps    26 fpe  2.666 sec  968.98 in 344.74 in  264.99 in
750 yds-1011.04 in   525 fps    24 fpe  2.807 sec 1068.42 in 382.28 in  282.80 in
775 yds-1115.51 in   511 fps    23 fpe  2.951 sec 1174.85 in 422.72 in  301.19 in
800 yds-1227.51 in   497 fps    22 fpe  3.099 sec 1288.81 in 466.28 in  320.22 in

Load Data
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Name: Rem 33gr V-Max
Ballistic Coeff: 0.137
Bullet Weight: 33
Velocity: 2000
Target Distance: 100
Scope Height: 1.500
Temperature: 70
Altitude: 500

Ballistic Data
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Range  Elevation  Velocity   Energy     ETA         Drop      Max Y  10mph Wind Deflect
  0 yds   -1.50 in  2000 fps   293 fpe  0.000 sec    0.00 in  -1.50 in    0.00 in
 25 yds   -0.09 in  1868 fps   256 fpe  0.039 sec    0.28 in  -0.53 in    0.19 in
 50 yds    0.69 in  1743 fps   223 fpe  0.080 sec    1.19 in  -0.29 in    0.96 in
 75 yds    0.74 in  1624 fps   193 fpe  0.125 sec    2.83 in   0.16 in    2.26 in
100 yds    0.00 in  1511 fps   167 fpe  0.173 sec    5.26 in   0.85 in    4.02 in
125 yds   -1.71 in  1408 fps   145 fpe  0.224 sec    8.66 in   1.84 in    6.47 in
150 yds   -4.54 in  1314 fps   127 fpe  0.280 sec   13.19 in   3.20 in    9.62 in
175 yds   -8.61 in  1230 fps   111 fpe  0.339 sec   18.94 in   4.97 in   13.38 in
200 yds  -14.14 in  1158 fps    98 fpe  0.401 sec   26.17 in   7.23 in   17.85 in
225 yds  -21.29 in  1098 fps    88 fpe  0.468 sec   35.01 in  10.04 in   22.96 in
250 yds  -30.25 in  1050 fps    81 fpe  0.538 sec   45.66 in  13.46 in   28.66 in
275 yds  -41.13 in  1009 fps    75 fpe  0.611 sec   58.22 in  17.53 in   34.89 in
300 yds  -54.01 in   975 fps    70 fpe  0.686 sec   72.80 in  22.28 in   41.57 in
325 yds  -69.13 in   944 fps    65 fpe  0.765 sec   89.60 in  27.81 in   48.77 in
350 yds  -86.49 in   917 fps    62 fpe  0.845 sec  108.66 in  34.13 in   56.38 in
375 yds -106.18 in   891 fps    58 fpe  0.928 sec  130.04 in  41.27 in   64.36 in
400 yds -128.37 in   868 fps    55 fpe  1.013 sec  153.92 in  49.30 in   72.74 in
425 yds -153.30 in   846 fps    52 fpe  1.101 sec  180.54 in  58.32 in   81.58 in
450 yds -180.97 in   825 fps    50 fpe  1.191 sec  209.91 in  68.33 in   90.81 in
475 yds -211.41 in   806 fps    48 fpe  1.283 sec  242.03 in  79.36 in  100.35 in
500 yds -244.83 in   787 fps    45 fpe  1.377 sec  277.15 in  91.50 in  110.28 in
525 yds -281.55 in   769 fps    43 fpe  1.473 sec  315.56 in 104.86 in  120.66 in
550 yds -321.73 in   751 fps    41 fpe  1.572 sec  357.43 in 119.51 in  131.48 in
575 yds -365.43 in   735 fps    40 fpe  1.673 sec  402.81 in 135.49 in  142.71 in
600 yds -412.67 in   718 fps    38 fpe  1.777 sec  451.75 in 152.82 in  154.31 in
625 yds -463.50 in   702 fps    36 fpe  1.882 sec  504.27 in 171.54 in  166.23 in
650 yds -518.12 in   687 fps    35 fpe  1.989 sec  560.58 in 191.73 in  178.52 in
675 yds -577.24 in   672 fps    33 fpe  2.100 sec  621.39 in 213.65 in  191.33 in
700 yds -640.98 in   658 fps    32 fpe  2.213 sec  686.82 in 237.36 in  204.65 in
725 yds -709.40 in   643 fps    30 fpe  2.329 sec  756.93 in 262.91 in  218.42 in
750 yds -782.58 in   630 fps    29 fpe  2.447 sec  831.80 in 290.34 in  232.63 in
775 yds -860.58 in   616 fps    28 fpe  2.567 sec  911.50 in 319.70 in  247.23 in
800 yds -943.47 in   603 fps    27 fpe  2.690 sec  996.08 in 351.03 in  262.21 in

[LaOtto222]

UPDATE

I installed a Rifle Basix trigger and put a Mueller APV on a Marlin 982VS CF (carbon fiber). A couple pictures - one of the rifle and one of a target I shot at 100 yards. The day I shot the target it was blowing left to right pretty stiff at times. I tried to time it between the blows. There were other types of ammo on the same target and none of them came close to the WW Supremes. The next best was Rem 33 grain V-Max, but they did not perform as well. I really wanted the WW 40 grain hollow points to work, but they were miserable out of my gun some where around 3" @ 100 yards.

[Keith L]

I was interested in how Marlin could put a carbon fiber stock on a .22 and have any one able to afford it, so I went to the web page and found out that it looks like carbon fiber but is fiberglass reinforced synthetic.  That makes more sense. For that matter a carbon fiber stock is kind of unnecessary.  Fiberglass reinforced synthetic will be strong and will take the weather well, and will be nearly as light as CF.  You will enjoy that rifle.

[LaOtto222]

Yep, it is a carbon fiber pattern on a fiberglass filled synthetic stock. The model is still 982VS CF. It kind of grows on you.

[huntersmurf]

Found this at a pawn shop this weekend.



$155.00, going to do the bic pen spring trick to the trigger and change the cheap scope.

A Marlin 925M w/laminated stock and el-cheapo scope. Took it to the range to check the sight in, then went into the woods and scrambled some diggers.

The 925M s on the left, the other is a Marlin 917V. The 917 17hmr is better out past 100yds but the 22mag knocks um down better, it likes CCI 30gr HP best so far.

[LaOtto222]

I think you did well with the $155 on that M925. If I found one, I would not have gotten the M982 I did. If you look back you will find the reason I bought the M982 was because they messed up my order on the M925 and sent a 925 instead. I could be wrong, but that looks like a regular birch stock. I have tried 6 different 22 mag ammo and mine likes the Win Supremes best. I do not know they will perform on woodchucks yet. I have read they do not expand very well.

[Glanceblamm]

going to do the bic pen spring trick to the trigger

Please do elaborate. The bic pen spring trick is designed to ??
Sorry for my ignorance but I own an older (non-marlin) rifle that I suspect may benifit from this.

[LaOtto222]

The Bic pen spring thing is for the Marlin T-900 triggers. If you have an older Marlin with out the T-900 trigger or another kind of gun, then this will not work for your rifle. Do not give up hope. I have lightened many triggers on other guns including older Marlin 22 bolt action guns. Depending on the design of the gun trigger, you can replace the trigger spring or find one of lighter tension. You can hone the trigger sear too. I have either replaced the trigger or lightened every rifle trigger I own with th exception of an older model Mossberg (a 340K I think). No matter what I did the trigger pull is still very heavy. Good Luck and Good Shooting

[huntersmurf]

Here is a link to the trigger mods http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197546

The stock is definately laminate,




In this pic you can see the plies of the veneer, the wood does not contrast a lot from layer to layer but is is a plywood stock.

[LaOtto222]

That picture makes it plain - it IS a laminated stock. It makes it an even better buy.

There is a link right at the top of this page (rimfire) under FAQ that tells about the trigger job.

[Glanceblamm]

LaOtto222
Thanks for the bic spring trick and other trigger work.

[teddy12b]

I have a Marlin bolt action 22mag.  I bought it when I was 18 and it makes a world of difference on groundhogs.  The model I have looks just like this one  http://marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/22WinMagnum/982VS.aspx  but it's not called a 982VS.  There's several groundhogs that wish this rifle wasn't as good as it is.