Question about H&R History

[STUMPJMPR]

Here in Mississippi it is legal to use a single shot rifle produced before 1900 or a replica in 38 cal. or larger.  The H&R rifle as we know it today was not produced before 1900 or any similar design that i have seen....Is this correct???

[towpro]

Here in Mississippi it is legal to use a single shot rifle produced before 1900 or a replica in 38 cal. or larger.  The H&R rifle as we know it today was not produced before 1900 or any similar design that i have seen....Is this correct???

H&R will tell you the Buffalo Classic is a copy of the 1871. (I guess if you squint just right you can see a resemblence)
You would need to check the laws because I assume your trying to do some kind of hunting with it?
Check this URL http://buffaloclassic.tripod.com/

[quickdtoo]

It doesn't matter what H&R says, it's  MDWFP that makes the rules pertaining to the MS primitive weapons season, key words are kind or type manufactured before 1900.

Tim

http://www.mdwfp.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10913

This an approved list that we have for the new public notice on the breechloading sigle shot rifles, kind or type manufactured before 1900 with an exposed hammer, .38 cal or larger.

This list is by no means exclusive. This is just a list comprised of commonly available rifles.

SINGLE SHOT BREECHLOADING RIFLES WHICH ARE PRIMATIVE WEAPONS:

Sharps rifles or replicas
Reminton Rollingblock rifles or replicas
Ballard rifles
Maynard rifles or replicas
Burnside carbines
Frank Wesson rifles
Remington Hepburn rifles
M1873-1888 Springfield (trapdoor) Rifles and Carbines and replicas
Snider (British) rifles or replicas
Wesson & Harrington 1871 Rifles
New England Firearms or Harrington & Richardson Handi Rifles
Winchester M1885 Hi Wall or Lo Wall rifles or replicas (Also Browning B78 or 1885)

SINGLE SHOT BREECHLOADING RIFLES WHICH ARE NOT PRIMATIVE WEAPONS!!!!

Ruger Number 1 and Number 3 (no exposed hammer)
Thompson Center Contender or Encore Carbines (designed after 1900)
Mossberg SSi Single Shot Rifle (no exposed hammer and designed after 1900)

 

[Busta]

From What I understand the CVA Optima Elite and Knight KP1 also fall under the NEW guidelines. There is also a House Bill (560ish???) in the works that would also allow the T/C Encore. The Mississippi Primitive Weapons link on the States website is down, probably being updated.

I'm sure everybody wanted a piece of that pie, H&R/NEF probably did well over the last couple years.

[STUMPJMPR]

I understand whats legal here in MS...I was just trying to figure out if that was a reproduction of a classic design but i couldn't find anything on it...Except it was based on the frank wesson tip up rifle which i see no resemblance

[quickdtoo]

MS bill 560 appears to be dead.

Tim

http://billstatus.ls.state.ms.us/2008/pdf/history/HB/HB0560.xml

[ro]

yes, H.B. 560 died in the house, the handi-rifle may look different than the one made before 1900, but the law is the year it was patented, and it was before 1900, alot of people here in Mississippi don't like the new law but you can still hunt with any kind of black-powder rifle you want to, i still have my T/C 50 cal., and Knight 50 cal., rifles but i also have handi-rifles in 45-70 and 500 mag for just a little back-up.

[petemi]

Yeah, my Handis got a chuckle out of being primitive in Mississippi.  They thought they were "State of the Art" here in the north woods...............Looks like anything goes to collect a license fee these days.  That also goes for Michigan's push for money too.  I grew up with "primitive" meaning flintlock or longbow.  Guess I fell off the train somewhere.

[ro]

petemi, tell your handi's to stop laughing, here they can hunt all season, no special license needed, just buy a sportsman license for 32.00 and you can hunt bow,gun and primitive seasons also includes fishing, so in a way its a good deal if you live in the state.

[STUMPJMPR]

I don't find them that primitive either...I heard the bill was started by a group of guys wanting to use their blackpowder rifles for primitive weapons which worked good until politicians got a hold of it...