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Offline duckmaster

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« on: May 01, 2008, 03:44:10 AM »
What would you guys recommend for reloading presses for the 204 ruger. I want to start reloading not sure what to buy. The 204 shoots great with factory ammo. but would like to fine tune it alittle. plus try 26 grn varmit grenade's.

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Re: reloading
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 04:12:04 AM »
Invest in a couple of loading manuals, if you are just starting out.  Lots of good info there on how to.  Depending upon what kind of volume, you'll have to decide between a single stage or progressive.  If you are just getting started, I would recommend a single stage press.  Depending upon the depth of your pockets, there a lots of quality presses.  I've found Lee to deliver great return for the money spent.  YOu should be able to buy a Lee Challenger kit in the $100 range.  Hornady C lassic kit will run about $300.  A RCBS Supreme Master kit is about $270.  Both RCBS  & Lyman offer turret presses, but if you are only reloading for a single caliber, no real advantage there.  If you are just getting started, the kits offer some value, but you don't have to stick with a single manufacturer.   Hornady dies will fit RCBS press,  most all are using a standardized thread pattern.  If you want to go really low $, the Lee Classic loader is less than $20.  They deliver good ammo, just really slow.  As you start adding mechanics, it all gets easier and faster.  As I've heard it said: speed costs $, how fast do you want to go?   For around $300 you can obtain equipment that will last a lifetime.  If you get the chance, try out a buddies set-up and see how it feels. 
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Re: reloading
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2008, 04:13:58 AM »
Give a good look at the Lee classic cast, Its a lot of press for not a lotta dollars, I love mine.
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Re: reloading
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2008, 04:26:27 AM »
Thanks guys the problem i have no one i know reloads. so i have to learn on my own. so any suggestions would really be great .thanks

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Re: reloading
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2008, 04:30:42 AM »
the reloading video by g david tubb will take youstep by step this would be great for you to sort of see it done hands on by watching the video.
you can find them at sierra bullets web site.

https://www.sierrabullets.com/index.cfm?section=store&page=items&cat=2

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Re: reloading
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2008, 04:34:45 AM »
duckmaster

Drop in on the reloading for rifles and handguns forum here at greybeards , there are a few topics at the top of that page that will get you on the right track .

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Re: reloading
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2008, 04:49:18 AM »
Here is a very good read. Stimpy sent this link to me when I had a bunch of questions. Dale   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handloading
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Re: reloading
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2008, 05:32:30 AM »
When thinking about reloading first start with at least two reloading books from one of the big houses. Once you get a feel for it by reading these books and as much other stuff you can lay your hands on or eyes, then you can decide what you want for equipment. I suggest a quality single stage press. Every one of the big guys makes at least one, just make sure it is a quality cast iron press. Lee makes a good one for little money. I have had a RCBS Rock Chucker for a lot of years. I still use it exclusively, you may decide that you want to get a progressive or turret later, but you will still find a need for the single stage you started with. Get yourself a good set of dies. You need a full length sizer + a bullet seating die for the 204. You may want to consider a Lee deluxe set that includes a neck Collet die. What is best is up for debate, but what I found was that I have added dies as I went. I started out with RCBS dies and have added Lee neck collet die, micrometer bullet seating dies, but that can come later if your pockets are not deep. The Lee set will cost you about the same as a set from just about everyone else. RCBS, Lee, Redding, Hornady, and Forstner dies I have first hand knowledge of and they are all good dies with their pluses and minuses. You will need to have a good scale and powder trickler. You can get a set of Lee dippers to scoop out powder onto the scale and then trickle in the amount needed. A funnel is needed also. Some way of lubing cases, many like the spray on lubes and if that is the way you go, then you will not need to purchase any other equipment for it. If you buy any ones dies, but Lee, you also need a shell holder for your press. Theses are the basics. Reloading books, press, 2 die set, scale, powder trickler, funnel, chamfer tool, dipping spoons, case lube and of course reloading supplies like bullets, powder, primers and empty cases. You can add a plethora of other equipment over time. One of the next things you will need is a case trimmer of some sort. Lee makes an inexpensive one that works. You can add a powder thrower or electronic scale/dispenser, tumbler, specialty dies, more reloading books, neck turning equipment, Powered case prepping, etc later. I just touched the surface, there are a lot of more special equipment to add if so desire. You will decide what you want. I started out like you, no one that knew any thing about reloading and I did not have the Internet. A lot of trial and error and some stupid mistakes. Research, research and then do some more research. The guys here have given you some places to start, all good advice. Good Luck and Good Shooting.
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Re: reloading
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2008, 08:27:52 AM »
Check out eBay and your local gun club for used equipment.  A buddy of mine got a friend started shooting silhouette with us.  He was starting to get iffy about the cost of ammo he was buying.  Bret loaded some ammo for him for a couple of months.  He liked the way they shot so decided he would get into reloading.  I sold him a complete set up to load 357s for $50 just to keep him interested.  RCBS press, dies, shell holder, measure, and loading tray.  You can find this stuff on craigs list and at garage sales.  You can also put in a "WANTED" add in GBs classified column.  Someone will set you up with a good starter kit.  If you have questions on reloading, feel free to ask us.

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Re: reloading
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2008, 08:35:17 AM »
When buying a trickler, I can't say enough good things about my Redding. When I bought it, it was only a dollar or two more than a RCBS. Looks like it's gone up in recent years, Midway gets $13 for RCBS and $18 for Redding. I'd still pay the extra $5, or skip the trickler for now and use a chemist's spatula or just shake a grain at a time out of a Lee powder measure scoop.

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Re: reloading
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2008, 09:24:08 AM »
Mitch - I had an RCBS and got so fed up I bought the Redding. I could not agree with you more, they do not get much better than the Redding powder trickler..
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Re: reloading
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2008, 09:53:38 AM »
For some good .204 stuff (to go with the great info you will find here  ;D), try the reloading forum here too:  http://www.204ruger.com/forum/ 
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Re: reloading
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2008, 11:36:55 AM »
When I started I didn't know anyone that reloaded either. I was young then and just winged it ::) Thankfully I survived those days. Reloading isn't rocket science unless you start getting int benchrest stuff. The internet makes things alot easier these days. Here's a quick little article on reloading 101. Its an addicting hobby tho. Dave

http://www.reloadbench.com/gloss/guide.html

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Re: reloading
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2008, 04:30:58 PM »
All good advice, get manuals and read and read, one other thing if your starting with the 204 it's a small case and a small change in powder weight is a larger change % wise than in larger volume cases work loads up carefully.