My huntsman is a 24 inch fast twist and I shoot T/C 470 gr. Maxis in front of two 50 gr. Triple Seven pellets. Four boxes of the Maxis came with a used ML, so I tried them an they work great. I shot a nice buck in December coming at me at 60 yards. I shot him in the chest and the bullet exited the right hip. It simply bowled him over backward dead. They group well at 100 yards, and the last time I had it out, I was ringing the 300 yard gong. The drop seems to be about 30 inches.